Michael Sonnenshein is the CEO of Grayscale. In this interview, we discuss Grayscale’s lawsuit with the SEC, Genesis’s lending practices and bankruptcy, GBTC and the intercompany relationships at DCG.    

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The Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC) brought institutional investment into Bitcoin and helped Bitcoin to mature. Launched in 2013, as a subsidiary of the Digital Currency Group (DCG), it was devised as an official means of gaining exposure to Bitcoin for high-net-worth entities. Many, including Grayscale, have sought to provide a spot price ETF, but, in the absence of SEC approval, GBTC has served as an attractive alternative investment vehicle. In November 2021, GBTC had over $43 billion AUM. 

GBTC is one of many funds Grayscale provides covering a plethora of digital assets, including Ethereum, Solana, Zcash and Bitcoin Cash. However, GBTC is the most dominant: at this moment GBTC represents nearly 75% of Grayscale's total AUM. With its 2% annual fee based on Bitcoin’s spot price, GBTC is a valuable part of Grayscale and DCG's portfolio. At the current Bitcoin price, GBTC commands approximately $420m in fees.

Grayscale is currently dealing with some major issues. Since early 2021 GBTC has been trading below its net asset value (NAV). This discount is currently hovering around all-time lows at 46%. GBTC holders cannot redeem their shares for the underlying asset. They have to sell their shares in an open market and shoulder this discount. Those not forced to sell feel effectively trapped. 

Grayscale is subject to a number of investor lawsuits, and an activist campaign seeking to unseat Grayscale as the manager of GBTC. Concurrently, Grayscale is suing the SEC over the latter's refusal to convert GBTC into an ETF. The mechanisms of an ETF allow for arbitrage trading keeping the share price aligned with NAV. This is Grayscale’s strategy for reducing the current GBTC discount. 

Grayscale has also been caught up in the bankruptcy of the crypto lending firm Genesis, another subsidiary of DCG. According to a Financial Times report, DCG is selling shares in Grayscale funds, “at a steep discount” to pay back Genesis creditors. There are more fundamental questions about the role of Genesis’s lending. According to Bitcoinist, the failed hedge fund Three Arrows Capital took a $2.36 billion loan from Genesis backed by 17 million GBTC shares.

Grayscale, the SEC & Genesis with Michael Sonnenshein

David Bailey is the co-founder & CEO of BTC Inc. In this interview, we discuss the upcoming Bitcoin Conference in Miami, the ongoing saga with Genesis, Grayscale & DCG, as well as the Redeem GBTC campaign that David has been spearheading.

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Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC) is a trust product offered by Grayscale, a company owned by Digital Currency Group (DCG). GBTC allows investors to gain exposure to Bitcoin through more traditional investment channels, and currently, Grayscale manages approximately $18.1 billion across various funds.

However, Grayscale is facing some significant issues. Since early 2021, GBTC has been trading below its net asset value (NAV) at a discount rate of around -36%. GBTC holders are unable to redeem their shares for the underlying asset and must accept this discount if they want to sell their shares on the open market.

To address this, David Bailey has set up the Redeem GBTC campaign to push Grayscale to open withdrawals and allow GBTC holders to access the underlying Bitcoin with minimal impact on the Bitcoin market. Allowing redemptions could also potentially bring the heavy discount to NAV back closer to par.

Busting the GBTC Trust with David Bailey - WBD655

James Seyffart is an analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence covering ETFs. In this interview, we discuss the how and why of ETFs, Grayscale’s legal battle with the SEC over the approval of a Bitcoin ETF, and the complexities of Grayscale implementing a redemption program for GBTC. We also talk about the role of the SEC in regulating Bitcoin and Gary Gensler’s political ambitions.

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In two months' time, it will be the 10-year anniversary of the Winklevoss Twins making the first submission to the SEC for a Bitcoin spot ETF. When the SEC rejected this in 2017, it seemed as though it was a temporary blip, and that a US Bitcoin spot ETF would inevitably be approved. And yet, the SEC has rejected a raft of subsequent applications, and many more sit in Gary Gensler’s inbox awaiting a decision. 

Grayscale has decided to test the SEC's stance in court. Whilst there are various opinions as to the underlying motivation for Grayscale taking on this case, there is no doubt that this is the best test of the SEC's current intransigence in relation to a Bitcoin spot ETF. 

Bloomberg Intelligence’s James Seyffart, an ETF expert, provides his informed opinion on the current status of Grayscale’s case, the likelihood of the SEC losing the case, and whether this will affect the SEC's position of a Bitcoin spot ETF. He also sets out why the SEC is so reluctant to approve what many in the community believe would open up Bitcoin to a new massive wave of adoption.

GBTC & The SEC Lawsuit with James Seyffart

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The media lies, governments mismanage, and our financial systems are failing us. In Mr Obnoxious, Peter McCormack explores the new frontier of tech, money and governance.

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