Episode: 98
Episode Title: Pharmacy Showdown: Inside the PBM Power Play in the U.S.

In this episode of the Pharmacy View Podcast’s Rx to Riches stream, international host Michael Alexander, a Pharmacist, entrepreneur, digital health enthusiast, Co-Founder of Audrie, and the Regional Vice-President of Health Plans at Omada Health, interviews Dr. Drew Oliveira, Executive Director, Washington Health Alliance and Clinical Associate Professor, University of Washington; and Denise Giambalvo, Director, Member Engagement & Business Strategy, Washington Health Alliance.  Together, they explore the intricate dynamics of the Pharmaceutical market, focusing on the impact of PBMs and the broader disparities in the U.S. healthcare system. Tune in to uncover how vertical integration, financial incentives, and payment model reforms could reshape patient care and outcomes.

Denise delves into the complexities of the pharmaceutical market, particularly focusing on the role and impact of PBMs. They highlight the dominance of three major PBMs that control 80% of the market, creating a system that often prioritizes profits over patient care. Denise explains how vertical integration enables PBMs to manipulate drug pricing, even within programs aimed at assisting low-income patients, and describes the financial challenges faced by Pharmacies due to PBM practices like clawbacks, which often result in financial losses for Pharmacies.

Denise elaborates on the challenges independent Pharmacies face due to PBMs' vertical integration, where PBMs own Pharmacies and manage the entire supply chain. This integration allows PBMs to benefit from practices like spread pricing, where they charge health plans more than they reimburse Pharmacies, pocketing the difference. Denise underscores the lack of transparency in PBM operations and its impact on costs for both employers and patients. Additionally, the discussion covers the significant role of specialty drugs in healthcare costs and how PBMs leverage their control to profit through rebates and preferred drug listings.

Further, Dr. Drew and Denise discuss the disparities and complexities within the U.S. healthcare system, emphasizing the dominance and profit mechanisms of PBMs at various stages of the pharmaceutical supply chain. The conversation reveals how PBMs and consultants create a biased market, influencing employer choices through back-end financial incentives, exacerbating the lack of transparency, and ultimately affecting drug costs. Denise also highlights the need for data-driven strategies to address health inequities, stressing the importance of removing financial and access barriers to improve patient outcomes.

In a thought-provoking exchange, host Michael Alexander asks Denise and Dr. Drew Rivera about the most impactful change that could improve patient care in the U.S. healthcare system. Both suggest that changing the payment model to a global or episode-based payment for primary care would be transformative. Dr. Rivera also proposes a federalized healthcare system as a controversial yet potentially effective solution for aligning incentives and enhancing care quality. The episode concludes on a lighter note, with Dr. Rivera sharing his passion for jazz music and Denise discussing their enjoyment of dancing and pickleball, highlighting the importance of balancing professional and personal interests.

Pharmacy Showdown: Inside the PBM Power Play in the U.S.

In this episode of Pharmacy View Podcast’s Full Scope Pharmacy Leadership stream, host, Chantelle Turner, a Pharmacist Leadership and Business Coach at TURN Pharmacy Leadership, welcomes Shaylee Mills. A Rural Pharmacist, Pharmacy Help Karratha, who is also the National PSA Intern Pharmacist of the Year 2022. Shaylee shares their unique journey into Pharmacy, their dedication to rural healthcare, and insights on mentoring future Pharmacists. Tune in to discover the challenges and rewards of a fulfilling career in Rural Pharmacy.

Shaylee shares their unexpected journey into Pharmacy, inspired by a love for organic chemistry found in university course books. They recount their diverse experiences across metropolitan, rural, and hospital Pharmacies, as well as their involvement in student advocacy and research. Shaylee’s passion for Rural Pharmacy was solidified during a placement in Karratha, leading them to return and continue their impactful work in the community.

Shaylee discusses their deep commitment to Rural Pharmacy, shaped by their upbringing in a rural area and professional experiences in rural healthcare. They emphasize critical challenges such as workforce shortages and limited access to doctors, highlighting Pharmacists' vital role in these communities. Shaylee advocates for increasing the rural healthcare workforce and shifting the Pharmacy model towards primary care to better support patients.

Shaylee shares insights on the distinct advantages of pursuing a career in Rural Community Pharmacy, highlighting the immense professional satisfaction and rapid career progression it offers. They address the misconception that Community Pharmacy lacks clinical opportunities, illustrating how rural settings provide a rich, clinical work environment. Additionally, Shaylee emphasizes the work-life balance and rewarding community connections that come with living and working in rural areas.

Chantelle and Shaylee discuss the importance of self-care and preventing burnout in early career Pharmacists. Shaylee emphasizes three key leadership skills: self-awareness, adaptability, and determination. They explain that self-awareness involves understanding one's emotions and reflecting on personal capacity and stress levels. Adaptability is crucial, especially in rural settings where circumstances can change rapidly. Determination helps push through challenging times until conditions improve, maintaining a sustainable and fulfilling career in Pharmacy.

Shaylee also discusses their role in nurturing early career Pharmacists within the Karratha community, emphasizing the importance of mentoring Pharmacy students. This mentorship leads to successful recruitment and retention of future Pharmacists. Shaylee shares their passion for providing students with positive experiences, inspired by their own journey and impactful mentors. They highlight the gratifying nature of this work, noting that about 50% of their current staff were once students who interned with them, underscoring the effectiveness of their mentorship and community-building efforts.

Additionally, Shaylee addresses the misconceptions and pain points that deter Pharmacists from pursuing rural positions, such as isolation, workload, and relocation challenges. They counter these concerns with their own positive experiences and the support systems available, including financial aid and unique professional opportunities. Shaylee emphasizes the importance of early conversations about rural healthcare careers at the university level to inspire and inform future Pharmacists, advocating for greater awareness and discussion about the benefits and unique experiences of Rural Pharmacy practice.

EP 99 - Pharmacy View Podcast - Championing Rural Pharmacy: The Shaylee Mills Story

In our 100th episode of the Pharmacy View Podcast, host Scott Carpenter, EVBC, interviews Michael Beck, Director of Med-ID for Australia and New Zealand. Michael shares their entrepreneurial journey from small business beginnings to spearheading innovation in the Pharmacy industry with SynMed robots. Join the two as they explore the transformative impact of automation and the future of medication safety and pharmacy operations.

Michael recounts their early career in small business and retail before transitioning into medical radiation technology, where they played a pivotal role in the digital transformation of medical imaging. This journey eventually led Michael into the Pharmacy sector, where they pioneered the deployment of SynMed robots for medication packing. They highlight their collaboration with Lucy Walker, marking the first SynMed implementation in an Australian Pharmacy.

Scott and Michael further explore their efforts to revolutionize medication safety and Pharmacy operations. Michael discusses their partnership with Dr. Paul Gooden and the establishment of Med-ID, detailing their journey from conceptualization to navigating challenges like the COVID-19 pandemic. Despite obstacles, they successfully introduced SynMed robots across Australian Pharmacies, scaling their business significantly and eventually merging with BD Rowa to form BD Rowa SynMed.

The conversation shifts to the innovative aspects of SynMed technology, emphasizing its robust design with metal components and advanced pick-and-place mechanisms for precise and rapid medication packaging. Michael underscores SynMed's role in not only solving logistical challenges but also enhancing Pharmacy revenue streams through efficient service delivery. They highlight SynMed's seamless integration with major software systems and the support received from pioneers in Australian medication packing.

Scott reflects on his extensive tenure in the Pharmacy industry, focusing on the evolving landscape and the importance of customer relationships, particularly in aged care settings. Michael expands on the strategic implications of robotics and automation in pharmacies, advocating for models like the hub and spoke system to optimize efficiency and customer engagement. They conclude with a discussion on community engagement, emphasizing how Pharmacies can meet the growing demand for healthcare services among aging populations by offering enhanced, frequent services like health checks and consultations.

Overall, Scott and Michael underscore the transformative impact of automation on Pharmacy operations, envisioning a future where technological advancements not only streamline processes but also elevate patient care and business sustainability in the healthcare sector.

EP 100 - Pharmacy View Podcast - Pioneering Pharmacy Tech: Michael Beck's Journey with SynMed

In this episode of the Pharmacy View Podcast’s Rx to Riches stream, international host Michael Alexander, a Pharmacist, entrepreneur, digital health enthusiast, Co-Founder of Audirie, and the Regional Vice-President of Health Plans at Omada Health, interviews Kerri Barwick, GM of Education & Training at the Pharmaceutical Society of Australia (PSA). Kerri shares their unique journey from business studies to Pharmacy, highlighting their innovative approach to training and the evolving role of Pharmacists. Tune in for an inspiring discussion on overcoming industry challenges and the exciting future of Pharmacy.

Kerri shares their inspiring journey into the Pharmacy profession, starting as a casual Pharmacy Assistant in high school. Initially pursuing a business degree, Kerri found themselves drawn back to Pharmacy roles, eventually deciding to study Pharmacy while raising young children. This blend of business acumen and Pharmacy skills has enabled Kerri to create innovative training programs at PSA, leading to rapid career advancement into their current leadership role.

Kerri discusses how their unique career path has influenced their approach to Pharmacy. Unlike many who transition from Pharmacy to business studies, Kerri's journey began with a business degree. This provided them with a distinct perspective on the importance of business skills in Pharmacy. Kerri underscores the support banner groups offer to Pharmacists in areas like marketing and business management, although they believe more can be done to enhance Pharmacists' understanding of customer relationships and long-term business value.

In their role at PSA, Kerri oversees a wide range of responsibilities, emphasizing the importance of teamwork and collaboration. They manage the organization of major conferences like PSA-24, various educational workshops, and qualifications such as the Diploma of Leadership Management. Additionally, Kerri oversees CPD products and new credentials like Pharmacist Prescribing. Building relationships through meetings with partners, universities, and internal teams is crucial to achieving the department's goals, according to Kerri.

Kerri highlights the significant challenges faced by Pharmacists, including time constraints and workforce shortages, especially in rural and remote areas. They emphasize the need for flexible training programs that can be accessed anytime and anywhere to accommodate these challenges. Despite the increasing demand for Pharmacists due to expanded roles like immunization and aged care, the profession often struggles with recognition and respect. Nonetheless, Kerri remains optimistic about the positive changes and increased authority Pharmacists are beginning to experience.

Kerri further discusses the complexities of training Pharmacy professionals in a demanding work environment, stressing the importance of balancing work and continuing education. They note the debate over the necessary training for Pharmacists to prescribe medications, pointing out that many Pharmacists already possess the required competencies. The competency framework helps identify training gaps, and Kerri stresses the importance of professional judgment and CPD in addressing these gaps. While acknowledging the differing views on training requirements, Kerri is hopeful about the evolving role of Pharmacists and the exciting opportunities on the horizon. 

Note: This insightful discussion is part one of the episode, with the second part to be released next week.

EP 101 - Pharmacy View Podcast - Evolving Roles: How Pharmacists are Meeting New Challenges

In this episode of the Pharmacy View Podcast’s Rx to Riches stream, international host Michael Alexander, a Pharmacist, entrepreneur, digital health enthusiast, Co-Founder of Audirie, and the Regional Vice-President of Health Plans at Omada Health, interviews Kerri Barwick, GM of Education & Training at the Pharmaceutical Society of Australia (PSA). In this episode, Kerri sheds light on the revolutionary AI-powered training simulation platform Audirie and its transformative impact on Pharmacy education. This episode delves into the journey of integrating AI into training, the challenges faced, and the remarkable benefits observed, offering listeners a glimpse into the future of Pharmacy training and education. Join us as we explore how Audirie is setting new standards in the industry and hear Kerri’s insights on the upcoming PSA National Conference and its focus on "Pathways to Progress."

Kerri delves into the innovative launch of Audirie, an AI-powered training simulation platform designed to enhance performance evidence in Community Pharmacy Training. This world-first initiative allows for realistic customer interactions, surpassing traditional methods like written evidence and phone simulations. It not only meets compliance requirements but also offers invaluable feedback for learners, marking a significant advancement in pharmacy education.

Kerri discusses the numerous advantages of the AI-powered training tool, Audirie, in enhancing Pharmacy education. They emphasize that the tool provides objective and constructive feedback, significantly improving Pharmacists' communication and counseling skills. While technical knowledge remains crucial, effective communication can greatly enhance patient interactions and overall professional satisfaction. The potential for Audirie to standardize training and boost confidence among Pharmacy interns is highlighted, leading to improved patient care and professional development.

Kerri also addresses the challenges and benefits of preceptor training in Pharmacy education. Despite PSA offering accredited preceptor training, it remains non-mandatory, resulting in many preceptors lacking formal teaching skills, which impacts the quality of intern training. Kerri underscores the value of AI-powered tools like Audirie in providing objective feedback, enhancing communication skills, and boosting confidence among pharmacy interns. They share personal experiences, noting the advantages of having clear, recorded assessments over subjective feedback, which can significantly enhance the learning experience.

Addressing the challenges and misconceptions surrounding AI in Pharmacy training, Kerri explains that some resistance stems from a lack of understanding of AI technology, particularly its ability to handle dynamic and natural conversations. Despite initial awkwardness, AI avatars have proven to be highly responsive and capable of managing complex scenarios and varied interactions. Kerri emphasizes the importance of continuous testing to fully understand AI’s capabilities and benefits in educational settings, encouraging organizations to embrace this technology.

In the final segment, Kerri offers advice to organizations considering AI-powered training solutions, stressing the importance of setting realistic timeframes and recognizing the technology's vast potential. They also preview the upcoming PSA conference, highlighting its theme "Pathways to Progress" and the exciting range of sessions and networking opportunities. Kerri emphasizes the value of connecting with peers and gaining inspiration from the event to rejuvenate one's passion for the Pharmacy profession, encouraging attendees to engage fully in this transformative experience.

EP 102 - Pharmacy View Podcast - AI in Action: Enhancing Pharmacy Training with Audirie

In this episode of the Pharmacy View Podcast, Founder Host Scott Carpenter is joined by Natalie Sirianni, Director & Officer in Effective Control of Attain Pty Ltd, Director of Musculoskeletal Australia, and a Board Member of the Australian Institute of Business Brokers (AIBB). As a leading expert in Pharmacy business brokerage, Natalie offers a deep dive into the current trends and transformations within the industry. From navigating the impacts of the 60-day dispensing policy to leveraging the benefits of the 8th Community Pharmacy Agreement (8CPA), Natalie provides a comprehensive analysis of how these changes are reshaping the market. Join us to explore how the enthusiasm of emerging Pharmacists and the resilience of the industry are creating new opportunities and driving growth in the Pharmacy business.

Natalie outlines their work in Pharmacy valuations and brokerage, including the impact of recent legislative changes such as the 60-day dispensing policy. Natalie explains the cyclical nature of Pharmacy valuations, influenced by economic conditions, community Pharmacy agreements, and interest rates. They highlight the industry's resilience during downturns and how its performance through events like COVID-19 has showcased its stability. Despite challenges such as the 60-day dispensing legislation, banks remain confident in lending to Pharmacies due to their consistent financial performance.

The discussion turns to the 60-day dispensing policy, which initially caused uncertainty and panic in the market. As the policy was implemented, the industry began to recover as the financial impacts became clearer. Natalie notes that while the new system introduced challenges, it allowed for better quantification and adjustment, showcasing the industry's ability to navigate changes with resilience and a historical perspective.

Natalie also addresses the broader impacts of the 8th Community Pharmacy Agreement (8CPA) and the new payments related to the 60-day dispensing policy. The 8CPA provides increased funding and stability, contrasting with the initial uncertainty of the transition period. This agreement has bolstered market confidence, leading to increased buyer interest and a resurgence in Pharmacy transactions. Sellers, particularly those nearing retirement who had previously postponed sales, are now re-engaging with the market, and valuations are expected to stabilize as confidence returns.

Natalie further talks about the invaluable role of young Pharmacists entering the industry through mentorship and succession plans. They describe this dynamic as mutually beneficial: younger Pharmacists gain essential knowledge and business acumen from their more experienced counterparts, while seasoned professionals receive fresh energy and enthusiasm. Natalie believes this intergenerational collaboration is crucial for the continued growth and vitality of the Pharmacy sector, fostering a positive transition and ensuring that the industry remains vibrant and forward-looking.

EP 103 - Pharmacy View Podcast - Pharmacy Valuations & Trends: What’s Hot in the Industry?

In this episode of Pharmacy View Podcast’s Full Scope Pharmacy Leadership stream, host, Chantelle Turner, a Pharmacist Leadership and Business Coach at TURN Pharmacy Leadership, speaks with Curtis Ruhnau, Pharmacist, a partner at Emerton Pharmacy and President of the Pharmacists' Support Service (PSS). Curtis reflects on their journey into the pharmacy profession, driven by a passion for chronic care management and a commitment to supporting both patients and fellow Pharmacists. They share insights into Emerton Pharmacy’s recent dual recognition in 2024, winning Excellence in Community Engagement and Excellence in Harm Minimisation, demonstrating their dedication to patient care and public health.

Curtis discusses the increasing importance of mental health and self-awareness within the Pharmacy profession, particularly post-COVID, where many Pharmacists face stress, uncertainty, and isolation. Drawing from their experience teaching medical students about self-awareness, Curtis highlights the need for greater advocacy around mental well-being in Pharmacy. They address how these challenges manifest in the evolving landscape of full-scope Pharmacy practice and emphasise the value of honest communication and proactive strategies for maintaining mental health.

Curtis shares personal insights into managing stress, emphasising the importance of acknowledging imposter syndrome and viewing it as a prompt for continuous learning. They describe their own approach to upskilling and self-care, sharing personal practices like reflection and stress management techniques. Curtis further underscores the role of mentorship, community, and teamwork in professional success, acknowledging that leadership often involves collective effort and support.

The episode concludes with a powerful discussion on the value of "listening with intention" in leadership. Curtis recounts lessons learned from Indigenous elders about the significance of deep listening and emotional intelligence in building empathetic and supportive teams. They highlight how small, intentional actions can strengthen the pharmacy community and foster a culture of care, reinforcing that empathy and active listening are essential for effective leadership and long-term growth in the profession.

EP 104 -Pharmacy View Podcast -Navigating Full-Scope Pharmacy:Teamwork, Mentorship, & Self-Awareness

In this episode of Pharmacy View Podcast’s Pharmacy Career, Resource & Training stream, host Kavita Nadan, Pharmacist and Founder at Locumate is joined by Jenny Kirschner, a Pharmacist and the Founder of Pharmacy Addressing Loneliness and Social-isolation (PALS). Jenny reflects on their unique career journey and the pivotal moments that inspired them to address the widespread issue of loneliness, particularly in healthcare settings. They explain how, despite some initial uncertainty in their Pharmacy career, they eventually carved out a meaningful path that prioritises authentic connection and patient care. Jenny’s story is a reminder that Pharmacists can bring their natural talents and passions into their work, creating impactful opportunities for both personal and professional growth.

Jenny shares insights into some of the creative ventures they’ve spearheaded, including "Mother Funkers," a daytime dance party for mothers and their children. This initiative, designed to combat the isolation many mothers face, provided a joyful and energising space for moms to connect. Jenny’s entrepreneurial spirit also led them into the world of gluten-free chocolate making, an example of how following one’s passions can create unexpected, fulfilling career opportunities. Jenny encourages others to be bold in embracing their true selves, no matter their career path, as it can open doors to new and exciting endeavours.

A significant focus of the conversation is Jenny’s work with PALS, which was inspired by their own experiences with loneliness during their Pharmacy studies and early career. PALS addresses the growing issue of loneliness, a concern that became even more pressing during the COVID-19 pandemic. Jenny highlights the crucial role that Pharmacists can play in identifying lonely individuals and advocating for mental health within their communities. Through persistent outreach, Jenny developed a comprehensive training program that equips Pharmacists to address social isolation, helping them create stronger connections with patients and support mental well-being.

Jenny also discusses the development of their accredited online training course, which teaches Pharmacists how to recognise and address loneliness in their patients. Featuring insights from global experts and real-life case studies, the course offers practical tools for Pharmacists to make a difference in their communities. Jenny stresses that Pharmacists, because of their close and frequent interactions with patients, are ideally placed to address social isolation, often through simple, yet meaningful, gestures. This course underscores the powerful impact Pharmacists can have on the lives of their customers beyond just filling prescriptions.

As the episode wraps up, Jenny shares plans for the next 12 to 18 months, including a much-needed break to recharge and a national awareness campaign to further address loneliness. They invite others who share this passion to join the campaign and share their stories, emphasising the importance of collaboration and community support. Jenny’s reflections on balance and well-being, both in personal life and professional ambitions, serve as a valuable reminder that taking care of oneself is just as important as the work being done to care for others. This episode highlights the evolving role of Pharmacists and the growing need to address social isolation in healthcare.

EP 105 - Pharmacy View Podcast -Loneliness in Plain Sight:Simple Signs Your Pharmacy Team Can Detect

In this engaging episode of the Pharmacy View Podcast’s Rx to Riches stream, international host Michael Alexander, a Pharmacist, entrepreneur, digital health enthusiast, Co-Founder of Audirie, and the Regional Vice-President of Health Plans at Omada Health, hosts Erin Fawcett, the Executive Director of Education and Professional Development at NAPSA, and Sebastian Harper, the National President of NAPSA. Together, they delve into the transformative roles of education, leadership, and advocacy in shaping the future of the Pharmacy profession. With personal insights, professional experiences, and a shared passion for advancing the Pharmacy industry, this episode offers an inspiring and thought-provoking conversation.

Erin and Sebastian discuss the significant impact of NAPSA (National Australian Pharmacy Students' Association) on Pharmacy students' professional growth. Erin highlights how NAPSA acts as the peak advocacy body for students, offering unparalleled networking opportunities that build professional relationships and enhance knowledge for future success. Sebastian underscores the importance of NAPSA's national advocacy efforts, ensuring student concerns are heard by government bodies and stakeholders. Michael reflects on his own career, encouraging students to prioritise networking to unlock new opportunities and further their professional development.

A key focus of the episode is NAPSA's efforts to combat "placement poverty," a pressing issue for students facing financial burdens during mandatory placements. Erin and Sebastian outline their campaign for government support similar to that provided to nursing students, aiming to make university more accessible amidst the rising cost-of-living pressures. Their advocacy reflects a broader mission to support Pharmacy students by improving accessibility and fostering an inclusive educational environment that enables future professionals to thrive.

The discussion also explores the challenges and rewards of balancing leadership responsibilities at NAPSA with full-time studies and work commitments. Erin shares how teamwork and a shared vision for advancing the Pharmacy profession fuel their dedication to student advocacy, while Sebastian highlights the role of collaboration among NAPSA committees in managing the workload effectively. Both emphasise the lasting impact of their initiatives on the Pharmacy community, illustrating how passion and teamwork drive meaningful progress.

Erin and Sebastian conclude with an inspiring vision for the future of Pharmacy, imagining a shift towards greater accessibility and a service-based model. They envision Pharmacies becoming integral hubs in Australia’s healthcare system, leveraging Pharmacists' expertise to ease pressures on the system and enhance patient care.

This is only the beginning of their insightful discussion, with Part Two of this engaging conversation set to be released next week. Stay tuned!

EP 106 - Pharmacy View Podcast - Leading the Change: NAPSA’s Role in Shaping Tomorrow’s Pharmacists

In this captivating second part of the Pharmacy View Podcast’s Rx to Riches stream, international host Michael Alexander, a Pharmacist, entrepreneur, digital health enthusiast, Co-Founder of Audirie, and the Regional Vice-President of Health Plans at Omada Health, continues his insightful conversation with Erin Fawcett, the Executive Director of Education and Professional Development at NAPSA, and Sebastian Harper, the National President of NAPSA. Together, they explore how NAPSA is driving innovation in Pharmacy education and empowering students to excel in a rapidly evolving healthcare landscape. From AI-driven tools to fostering interprofessional collaboration, this episode sheds light on the transformative initiatives shaping the future of Pharmacy practice.

The discussion delves into the rising prominence of Pharmacist-led prescribing and other advanced roles within the healthcare system. Erin highlights NAPSA's use of cutting-edge technologies, such as AI-powered counselling simulations, to prepare students for the complexities of modern patient care. Sebastian adds that NAPSA’s initiatives encourage students to expand their skills beyond traditional degrees, focusing on enhancing patient care through continuous learning and innovation. Together, they underscore the importance of education and teamwork in addressing challenges like disease management and medication accessibility.

The episode also explores the integration of AI into Pharmacy education and its impact on team training. Michael introduces Audirie’s AI-driven simulations for NAPSA members, enabling students to practise patient interactions with precision and confidence. Erin and Sebastian discuss how AI complements traditional training, helping all Pharmacy team members—from Pharmacists to assistants—perform at the top of their scope. This holistic approach aims to bridge skill gaps and elevate the overall standard of patient care, highlighting the critical balance between technology and human expertise in healthcare.

Addressing the barriers in Pharmacy education, the conversation turns to placement opportunities and financial challenges. Erin advocates for reforms to ensure students have access to earlier and paid placements, improving experiential learning. Sebastian emphasises the value of rural placements for interprofessional collaboration and community impact, while Michael calls on universities and governments to ease the financial burdens that deter students from pursuing careers in underserved areas. These measures are seen as vital to building a robust and sustainable Pharmacy workforce.

The episode concludes with excitement about the upcoming NAPSA Congress, the pinnacle event for Pharmacy students in Australia. Hosted at the University of Queensland, this week-long conference offers educational sessions, workshops, a trade expo, and vibrant social events. Sebastian shares their hopes for record-breaking attendance, while Erin highlights the benefits of NAPSA membership, including networking, scholarships, and mentoring opportunities. Together, they celebrate the Congress’s enduring legacy and its role in shaping the future of Pharmacy in Australia and New Zealand.

EP 107 - Pharmacy View Podcast-Bridging Gaps in Healthcare: NAPSA’s Vision for a New Era of Pharmacy

Welcome to Pharmacy View – Technology in Pharmacy Business Podcast Series where we provide regular interviews with Pharmacists and key industry people within the Australian Pharmacy and associated industry. In each podcast we look to discuss aspects of Pharmacy operation and how technology is improving or interacting with each guest’s current role or Pharmacy related business.

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