Were we wrong about systems thinking? In the first episode of a three-part series, Squirrel and Jeffrey revisit the contentious discussion around system thinking and their reaction to an article by Ed Braden. They hear from listeners, as well as Ed himself, emphasizing the importance of precise language and shared understanding.

Links: 
- Ed Bradon's article: https://worksinprogress.co/issue/magical-systems-thinking/
- Ed's reply on Twitter: https://x.com/EdBradon/status/1971266284990976361
- Previous episode/rant: https://soundcloud.com/troubleshootingagile/someone-is-wrong-on-the-internet-about-systems-thinking
- Shape Up episodes: 
  https://soundcloud.com/troubleshootingagile/ryan-singer-on-basecamp-and-shape-up-part-i
  https://soundcloud.com/troubleshootingagile/ryan-singer-on-basecamp-and-shape-up-part-ii
  https://soundcloud.com/troubleshootingagile/ryan-singer-on-basecamp-and-shape-up-part-iii

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About Your Hosts
Douglas Squirrel and Jeffrey Fredrick joined forces at TIM Group in 2013, where they studied and practised the art of management through difficult conversations. Over a decade later, they remain united in their passion for growing profitable organisations through better communication.

Squirrel is an advisor, author, keynote speaker, coach, and consultant, and he's helped over 300 companies of all sizes make huge, profitable improvements in their culture, skills, and processes. You can find out more about his work here: douglassquirrel.com/index.html

Jeffrey is Vice President of Engineering at ION Analytics, Organiser at CITCON, the Continuous Integration and Testing Conference, and is an accomplished author and speaker. You can connect with him here: www.linkedin.com/in/jfredrick/


Systems Thinking Rant Redux Part I

Troubleshooting Agile is a problem-solving session for agile teams. Jeffrey Fredrick and Douglas Squirrel look at common problems agile teams face and provide practical, immediately useful advice for getting back on track.