Defence expert Emeritus Professor Hugh White chats with Amy to examine the AUKUS alliance and his latest piece for The Monthly, ‘Penny Wong’s next big fight’. Hugh looks at whether Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong can stop Australia from going to war and reveals how her foreign policy positions have evolved as shadow and foreign affairs minister. Does Penny Wong believe AUKUS now positions Australia for an inevitable Pacific war, or does she still think we don't have to choose between the US and China? Hugh White is a contributor to The Monthly, Emeritus Professor of Strategic Studies at ANU, and author of 'The China Choice.' Article: https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2023/april/hugh-white/penny-wong-s-next-big-fight Broadcast on 18 April 2023.

Interview with Hugh White, On AUKUS & Whether Penny Wong Can Prevent Australia From Going To War

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Interview with Hugh White, On AUKUS & Whether Penny Wong Can Prevent Australia From Going To War

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