This episode was recorded in July 2024.

The second part of our interview with the lovely Kink Name Pending and Petite Pretzel focuses on tying male bodies, as well as bodies with ‘out-y’ bits (which are sometimes the same, sometimes not!). The two rope switches share wise advice (and they, and the podcast, note that some of this will apply to tying genders of all types), including:
	•	Risks you might not have thought of
	•	P3nis predicaments
	•	Handling size differences
	•	Body hair
	•	And plenty more.

NB: The alternative title for this episode would be ‘How to wrestle an octopus’ (IYKYK)

Pen (KinkNamePending) is a UK-based rope switch who loves the connections that shibari inspires and the wide range of experiences with vulnerability and trust it has brought him. Outside of rope, he is keenly interested in anatomy and physiology and has studied these topics extensively; he brings his perspective and understanding of the human body into rope. He has performed in the UK and abroad.

Petite Pretzel is a rope switch from New York City. She has been teaching shibari since 2019 at Anatomie Studio, London, as well as teaching and performing elsewhere in the UK and internationally. Her commercial rigging includes music video credits (Charli XCX, Christine + the Queens), art gallery installation (Elizabeth Xi Bauer gallery), fashion photography and full-length film. She lives in Bethnal Green with her cat, who loves ropes just as much as she does. 

Tune in to Episode 191 to hear part 1 of the episode.

Ep192: Tips on Tying Male Bodies: An interview with Kink Name Pending and Petite Pretzel (part2)

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