journalist-turned-rapper
educator
mom
activist-ish 
lover of nature

Elizabeth Kott and Stephanie Simbari have been coined "the Ab Fab of the new age” with good reason. Effortlessly merging pop culture and "wellness", the ladies of That’s So Retrograde seek out their most authentic selves, one mistake — or mindful awakening — at a time, while graciously bringing their listeners along for the ride. Through interviewing gurus of all kinds; from shamans to comedians, Steph and Elizabeth deliver conscious conversations with realness and humor, all while providing tips and expert insight to guide their listeners to their most enlightened path.

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