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When I Heard This - Episode 33 - The Title is Supposed to be Predetermination: Part Two

Is the church evolving… or just slowly fading out?

In this episode, Nate and Pastor Joseph unpack the subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways secularism is reshaping the American church—from cultural Christianity and cringey compromises to the real reasons people are walking away. With their usual balance of sarcasm, insight, and honesty, the duo dives into what happens when tradition clashes with a society moving further from faith.

Whether you’re deconstructing, reconstructing, or just spectating, this convo will make you think (and probably laugh). Is secularism the villain… or the mirror?

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Episode 152 – Losing Our Religion: How Secularism Is Shaping the American Church

What happens when political influence meets national tragedy?
In this In the Headlines episode, Nate and Pastor Joseph weigh in on the shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk — and what it means for American culture, Christian politics, and the ever-blurring lines between pulpit, platform, and protest. They dive into faith, media, and the raw tension of leadership in a divided nation, with their signature wit and unfiltered honesty.

This one’s part analysis, part commentary, part wait… did they just say that?

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In the Headlines: Charlie Kirk

Spiritual warfare isn’t just about demons and deliverance.
Sometimes it looks like burnout, shame, temptation, confusion… or the lies you tell yourself on a Tuesday afternoon.

In this episode, Nate and Pastor Joseph go deep—but with plenty of sarcasm and side-eyes—into what the Bible really says about spiritual warfare. Spoiler alert: it’s less ghost stories, more everyday battles.

Whether you grew up thinking spiritual warfare was all about casting out devils, or you’ve never heard the term but keep fighting unseen struggles, this conversation breaks it down without sounding like a sermon.

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Episode 153 – Spiritual Warfare Isn’t What You Think It Is

Spiritual warfare isn’t just demons and dramatic church folks.
This week, Nate and Pastor Joseph continue the convo on spiritual warfare—minus the smoke machines and exorcism clichés. Think less “Hollywood horror” and more real-world spiritual struggle: burnout, doubt, distractions, and that one Christian friend who swears everything is “a spirit.”

In true When I Heard This fashion, the guys mix hard truth, real-life church experiences, and a healthy amount of sarcasm to break down what spiritual warfare actually looks like. No cheesy sermons. No spooky sound effects. Just honest discussion, biblical perspective, and enough side-eye to keep it interesting.

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Episode 154 – Spiritual Warfare: More Than Demons and Drama

Think starting a church is just a sermon and some folding chairs? Think again.

In Episode 155 – Church Planting: DIY or Die Trying, Nate and Pastor Joseph go all in on the holy hustle of church planting—the wild world of building a brand-new church from the ground up. We’re talking vision boards, volunteer burnout, and maybe a few trauma responses along the way.

Whether you’re an aspiring church planter, recovering from one, or just curious how churches even start, this episode breaks it all down with humor, honesty, and enough sarcasm to keep it biblical.

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Episode 155 – Church Planting: DIY or Die Trying

Everyone loves the idea of starting a church… until the calling gets complicated. 😅

In this episode of When I Heard This, Nate and Pastor Joseph keep it real about what church planting actually looks like — the calling, the chaos, and the cost no one talks about. From emotional exhaustion to unexpected blessings, they unpack how obedience can feel messy, meaningful, and absolutely worth it.

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• How to stay faithful when the cost feels high

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Episode 156 – Church Planting: Calling, Chaos, and the Cost

😳 Still carrying shame even after saying you’re forgiven? Yeah… you’re not the only one.

In this episode, Nate and Pastor Joseph dive into what shame really is, how it sticks, and why so many Christians still walk around burdened with what Jesus already dealt with. With their usual combo of sarcasm, honesty, and zero fluff, they unpack a deeply human struggle through a Gospel-centered lens.

🙌 This isn’t a lecture. It’s a real convo with real takes. Whether you’ve been in church forever or you’re figuring faith out on the fly—this one’s for you.

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Episode 157 – He Took the Shame Too

🎃 Should Christians celebrate Halloween… or steer clear of it? 👻

In Episode 158 – Haunted or Holy: Christians and Halloween, hosts Nate and Pastor Joseph dig into one of the most debated questions in the church—how should believers approach Halloween? From trick-or-treating and haunted houses to “fall festivals” and spiritual caution, this first part of the two-part series explores whether Halloween is harmless fun, cultural participation, or something deeper.

This episode blends humor, sarcasm, and genuine faith talk, making complex conversations about belief and culture feel real, relatable, and refreshingly unfiltered.

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Episode 158 – Haunted or Holy: Christians and Halloween

🎃 Should Christians celebrate Halloween—or leave it alone? 👻

In Episode 159 – Haunted or Holy, Pt. 2: A Christian Wrap-Up on Halloween, hosts Nate and Pastor Joseph finish their deep (and sometimes hilarious) dive into how believers should approach Halloween. From spiritual caution to cultural fun, they explore the tension between faith, fear, and fall festivals.

It’s funny, honest, and refreshingly real—just two guys talking about what everyone’s already thinking.

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Episode 159 – Haunted or Holy, Pt. 2: A Christian Wrap-Up on Halloween

What happens when a comedian asks a pastor whatever he wants?? 😮

In the "When I Heard This" podcast, comedian Nate Robinsoff asks Pastor Joseph Tillman, M.Div. whatever questions he can think of about church in America, the Bible, Christianity, cults, sex, and well really anything! He doesn't hold much back 🤣.

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