Ian and Kat jump right in on what is in, and what is out for SMBs in 2025. Ian tries to explain the cloud to you like you're five, and in doing so shares an interesting anecdote about his old employer. We also apologize to our own employer on our social media habits...Lots to get through in a short time. It's a fun one! 

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