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Looking For Alignment

Summary
In this conversation, Dave Prior and Dennis Stevens explore the evolving definition of project success as outlined in PMI's recent report. They discuss the implications of this new definition, emphasizing the need for continuous transformation in organizations and the role of project managers in delivering value. The conversation also touches on the importance of reducing friction in project management, the impact of AI on the profession, and the necessity for project managers to navigate the political landscape of project success. Ultimately, they highlight the need for project managers to adapt to a rapidly changing environment and the skills required to thrive in this new landscape.

Takeaways
	•	A successful project delivers value worth the effort and expense.
	•	Transformation is continuous, not stepwise.
	•	Project success must include stakeholder perception and value delivery.
	•	Project managers need to focus on reducing friction in processes.
	•	AI will change the role of project managers significantly.
	•	Friction is not the same as constraints; it impedes progress.
	•	Project success should be measured by the ability to adapt and deliver value.
	•	The role of project managers is evolving to include more strategic responsibilities.
	•	Continuous evaluation is essential for project success.
	•	Navigating politics is crucial for achieving project success.

Links:
PMI Article on Reframing Project Success https://www.pmi.org/blog/reframing-project-success
Agile for Project Managers - What is Project Success? w/ Dennis Stevens, Jesse Fewell, Jenny Tarwater, Sally Sloley, Jimi Fearless, and Semira Allen and  (on The Agile Network) https://theagilenetwork.com/content/1d2a0a72-4d33-4145-b80a-3728f45b1947/item/0
Redefining Project Success and How it Impacts Project and Product Leaders with Lenka Pincot, Mike Griffiths and Dave Prior (on The Agile Network) https://theagilenetwork.com/content/926c08d0-52c7-4444-8f2a-732ac6acea61/item/0

Contacting Dennis
Website: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=orgwright&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dennisstevens/
The Agile Network Profile: https://theagilenetwork.com/celebrity/fa0c1ba5-2373-4750-a3a2-86e37bc3ab03


Chapters
00:18 Introduction to Project Success Redefined
03:25 Transformation in Project Management
06:14 The New Definition of Project Success
09:21 Challenges in Project Management
12:08 Reducing Friction in Project Success
15:16 The Role of Project Managers in Value Delivery
18:39 The Politics of Project Management
22:18 Evolving Role of Project Managers
25:08 AI and the Future of Project Management
28:08 The Changing Landscape of Project Management
30:18 Concluding Thoughts and Future Conversations

Redefining Project Success with Dennis Stevens - March 2025

his Spring at Agile Australia 2018, Martin Fowler, Chief Scientist at Thoughtworks and Agile Manifesto co-author gave a Keynote titled "The State of Agile Software in 2018". He recently published the text of his talk here. (If you refer video, you can find it on InfoQ.) His Keynote centered around 3 specific concerns with the current state of Agile, the first of which was The Agile Industrial Complex and imposing process on teams.

In this episode of SoundNotes, LeadingAgile CEO, Mike Cottmeyer shares his thoughts on the Agile Industrial Complex and some of the problems it can create. During the interview we dig into why the challenges come into play and what we can do to try and resolve them.

Contacting Mike
If you’d like to contact Mike you can reach him at:

LeadingAgile: https://www.leadingagile.com/guides/mike-cottmeyer/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cottmeyer/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mcottmeyer
Email: mike@leadingagile.com

Contacting Dave
If you’d like to contact Dave you can reach him at:

LeadingAgile: https://www.leadingagile.com/guides/dave-prior/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrsungo
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mrsungo
Email: dave.prior@leadingagile.com
If you have a question you’d like to submit for an upcoming podcast, please send them to dave.prior@leadingagile.com

And if you're interested in taking one of our upcoming Certified ScrumMaster or Certified Scrum Product Owner classes, you can find all the details at https://www.leadingagile.com/our-gear/training/

The Agile Industrial Complex and Imposing Agile Practices w/ Mike Cottmeyer

One of the unfortunate challenges faced by those who have served as members of the armed forces is that once they have completed their service, it can be difficult figuring out how to translate that work experience in a way that is compelling to employers in technology. In this episode of SoundNotes, you’ll learn how LeadingAgile’s Jim Sutton was able to offer assistance to a veteran who recently completed his time in the Air Force and was struggling to figure out how to present his work experience in a way that made it relevant to potential employers. By taking the time to talk through his experience in serving the country, Jim was able to help him reframe his accomplishments during job interviews. If you know someone who has served and is struggling to find a gig in IT, or if you are in that situation yourself, what you’ll find in this podcast is a valuable case study explaining how to leverage experience in the service and present it in a compelling way. Those who have served have sacrificed a great deal for the rest of us and we owe it to them to take the time to help them find a path to a rewarding career. This interview provides tips on how you can take a step towards repaying the debt we owe them. Also - please make sure to listen all the way to the end of the podcast to hear how things turned out.

Contacting Jim Sutton

LeadingAgile: 
https://www.leadingagile.com/guides/jim-sutton/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jim-sutton-b17208/
Email: jim.sutton@leadingagile.comContacting 

Dave Prior

If you’d like to contact Dave you can reach him at:

LeadingAgile: https://www.leadingagile.com/guides/dave-prior/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrsungo

Twitter: https://twitter.com/mrsungo

Email: dave.prior@leadingagile.com

If you have a question you’d like to submit for an upcoming podcast, please send them to dave.prior@leadingagile.com

And if you're interested in taking one of our upcoming Certified ScrumMaster or Certified Scrum Product Owner classes, you can find all the details at https://www.leadingagile.com/our-gear/training/

Being of Service to Those Who Have Served w/ Jim Sutton

One of the things a Project Manager and a ScrumMaster have in common is that at times, they are both called upon to act as a coach and act as a mentor. For anyone in a leadership role, creating clarity around the difference between the two can be challenging. And even for seasoned pros, knowing when to act as a mentor and when to act as a coach is not always easy. 

This podcast is about on mentoring and features Brandon Brown. Brandon has built a career that is deeply rooted in providing mentorship and serving others. His work focuses on creating, ensuring and sustaining safe places for young people to flourish so that they can, as he says, replace him. 

During the interview we dig into mentoring: what it is, how it is different from coaching, what it requires, and what the mentor and the mentee should expect from the relationship.

We also spend time during the beginning of the podcast discussing some of the work Brandon is currently doing around trauma for Temple University's Lewis Katz School of Medicine. This is a subject we will be revisiting at a deeper level on an upcoming podcast. 

If you'd like to reach out to Brandon with follow up questions, here is how you can reach him:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brbphilly/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/b_pbs
AboutMe: https://about.me/brandonrbrown

The Art of Mentoring with Brandon Brown

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Redefining Project Success with Dennis Stevens - March 2025

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