Nick Hand is a commercially savvy, hands-on Finance Director, a CPA with more than two decades of experience managing the finances of media, creative, PR agencies and more. He returns to Managing Marketing to discuss the considerations for agencies, advertisers and procurement in dealing with value based pricing models.
Value based pricing or Output based pricing has been around for quite a while, but until recently has struggled to gain any meaningful traction until now. Driven by the rise of generative AI and the downward impact this has on resource based fee models, more agencies are embracing value based pricing models.
The problem is that many agencies struggle with the approach with often confusing or conflicting advice on approaches. Likewise, many advertisers and their procurement teams are unsure how this approach will work.
Nick provides a financial perspective on making value based pricing work for both agencies and their clients.
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For more episodes of TrinityP3’s Managing Marketing podcast, visit https://www.trinityp3.com/managing-marketing-podcasts/ 
Recorded live on location with a Zoom H4n and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Nick Hand And Darren Discuss Value Based Pricing For Agency Fees

Welcome to TrinityP3 for FIVE. This is a curated newsletter of the five things the TrinityP3 team thinks you must read this week.

Our goal with TrinityP3 for FIVE is that in five minutes of reading on Sunday, you can get up to speed, feel more informed, or even get a head start on your week.

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This week’s curator is Nick Hand, Senior Finance Consultant, TrinityP3

Bunnings Breach – A Test of Privacy | Coke’s AI backlash |  Social Media Ban and more - November 24

Welcome to TrinityP3 for FIVE. A curated newsletter of the five things the TrinityP3 team believe you need to read this week.

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This week’s curator is Ellie Angell, Business Director, TrinityP3.

Black Friday hype? | LinkedIn now AI generated? | DEI rollbacks and more

Welcome to TrinityP3 for FIVE. A curated newsletter of the five things the TrinityP3 team believe you need to read this week.

Our goal with TrinityP3 for FIVE is that in five minutes of reading on a Sunday you can get up to speed, feel more informed or even get a head start on your week.

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This week’s curator is marketer, Michael Smolders.

Spotify Wrapped | Google search problem | Procurement scammers and more - December 8

Welcome to TrinityP3 for FIVE. A curated newsletter of the five things the TrinityP3 team believe you need to read this week.

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This week’s curator is TrinityP3 senior consultant, Nic Christensen.

Omnicom-IPG merger | Publicis’ Snoop ‘top’ Dogg? | US Tech/Media stock highs | Murdoch’s Succession drama and more December 15

Welcome back to TrinityP3 for FIVE for 2025. A curated newsletter of the five things the TrinityP3 team believe you may have missed over the holidays.

Our goal with TrinityP3 for FIVE is that in five minutes of reading on a Sunday you can get up to speed, feel more informed or even get a head start on your week.

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This week’s curator is TrinityP3 founder and Global CEO, Darren Woolley.

TikTok Ban | Amazon Retail Media | Meta Madness | Aussie Agency Media And More

Where’s the Aus Day controversy? | Burrowes buys Mumbrella back | DAZN shakes up sports rights and more

Welcome to TrinityP3 for FIVE. A curated newsletter of the five things the TrinityP3 team believe you need to read this week.

Our goal with TrinityP3 for FIVE is that in five minutes of reading on a Sunday you can get up to speed, feel more informed or even get a head start on your week.

And don’t forget you can sign up for the email version of the newsletter or the LinkedIn version. We have also launched this experimental AI audio edition (the AI robots have views on Adland, people!)

This week’s curator is Stephen Wright, Global Media Business Director, TrinityP3.

Omnicom IPG sell merger | Publicis buys Barry | The AI wars and more

Welcome to TrinityP3 for FIVE. A curated newsletter of the five things the TrinityP3 team believe you need to read this week.

Our goal with TrinityP3 for FIVE is that in five minutes of reading on a Sunday you can get up to speed, feel more informed or even get a head start on your week.

And don’t forget you can sign up for the email version of the newsletter or the LinkedIn version. We have also launched this experimental AI audio edition (the AI robots have views on Adland, people!)

This week’s curator is Nikki Clarkson, CMOTop50, NED, Mentor and one time NBL Cheerleader.
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The Great Northern Backlash | All things Super Bowl | Musk targets brands and WFA and more

Arvind Hickman is the features and analysis editor of marketing trade media title B&T. He is a journalist and editor with experience across sport, HR, constructions and most recently media and marketing. 
The advertising model is broken when it comes to news media. The major tech platforms, particularly Google and Facebook (AKA Alphabet and Meta) stand accused of undermining the news media publishers, with some governments intervening to support news media.
But, it is not just news media that has been impacted. Even the marketing and advertising trade media has suffered from the shift in advertising revenue to the major platforms. Some publishers have transformed their business models away from advertising to events, subscriptions, awards, events, membership fees and other paid models with mixed success.
Arvind provides an industry insider perspective on the challenges and opportunities for the trade news media industry.

Listener's note: Since the publication of this podcast, Michael Lynch, Publisher of Campaign Brief, has reached out to inform us that the outlet has now ended its "pay to play" policies*, which saw the publisher require agencies/media owners seeking to have their media release published on the site to sign up for advertising packages of between $750-$2000 (or $550 if you wanted a one-off news story that would lead that day's CB Daily Bulletin). The change (which, to our knowledge, was not publicly announced at the time) coincided with Campaign Brief switching off its anonymous comment thread**, following massive pressure from the creative agencies*** who made the difficult decision to boycott the publication****. TrinityP3's position on play-to-play remains that all trade publishers should disclose their commercial arrangements in line with AANA regulations***. 

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* https://mumbrella.com.au/agencies-considering-pulling-out-despite-campaign-brief-apology-questions-arise-around-pay-to-play-model-852207 
** https://campaignbrief.com/change-starts-today-campaign-brief-introduces-stricter-comment-moderation-policy/ 
*** https://mumbrella.com.au/pressure-mounts-as-leo-burnett-saatchi-saatchi-special-australia-and-more-pull-the-plug-on-campaign-brief-853681 
**** https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/trinityp3-five-campaign-brief-linkedin-furore-era-transparency-fundc/?trackingId=jRNnyXUcT%2FmelGb4EnSX1A%3D%3D

Arvind Hickman And Darren Talk About The Challenges Of The Trade Media

Kim Russell, an award-winning marketing leader with extensive experience in the Quick Service Restaurant (QSR) sector. She talks about the competitive landscape of QSRs, her transition from agency to client-side marketing, and the unique challenges faced by brands in this industry. 
Kim shares insights on consumer behavior, the importance of authenticity, and the role of technology in enhancing customer experience. She discusses pricing strategies amidst rising costs, the significance of day part marketing, and the potential of retail media in QSRs. 
Kim also reflects on her personal achievements, including launching a successful loyalty program with Katy Perry, highlighting the emotional connection consumers have with food brands.
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Recorded on RiversideFM and edited, mixed and managed by JML Audio with thanks to Jared Lattouf.

Kim Russell And Darren Talk On The Challenges And Opportunities In QSR Marketing

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