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Dear Listeners,
In this episode your hosts discuss the question of shame.

[0:24] Intro
[3:28] Different kind of shame
[05:47] Guilt and shame
[06:34] Shame by interpretation
[13:19] Did patients change?
[14:33] Shame and defense
[22:08] Perversions
[31:18] The analyst's shame
[44:27] Shame and castration
[46:38] Shame and anger directed at the Institute
[48:05] Shame and hiding
[50:11] More intense for analysts?
[54:38] Shame between students
[57:59] Peer group to counter shame
[01:01:33] Ending


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#57 On Shame

Jessica Benjamin joins host John Totten for our season finale. In a wide-ranging conversation [outlined below], the renowned psychoanalyst and theorist reflects on her radical upbringing, the development of recognition theory, and the feminist lens through which she examines our persistent social dilemmas. Why does more civilization seem to generate more problems? Dr. Benjamin’s answer diverges from Freud’s, and her concept of repair exposes how often conformity is entangled with domination. From mundane conventions like parenting roles to the horrors of war and genocide, her concepts illuminate pathways of transformation through multiplicity, challenging the belief that “only one can live.” She proposes that feminism offers a way forward in the clinic and society: a chance to move beyond rigid binaries into “The Third”- a space of mutual recognition, but only if we are first willing to confront the ways we’ve been getting it wrong. 

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1. Biography and Early Curiosities - 13:21
2. Formation of Recognition Theory- 20:25
3. Feminism and Family Roles- 27:30 
4. Oedipus and Gender Binaries- 30:54
5. Reversal and Bourgeois Feminism- 37:42
6. Response to Critiques-42:44
7. Clinical Vignettes of Recognition- 48:35
8. Crossing the Bridge of Difference-54:25
9. The Third, Breakdown, and Repair- 56:05
10. Survivalism and Conflict Resolution- 66:30
11. Infant Studies and Acknowledgement- 74:14
12. Destruction and Play-79:30 
13. Escalation and Unconscious Guilt- 86:54
14. Capitalism and Supremacy- 91:00
16. Hope- 99:30 

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Cooper and Taylor discuss Freud's Future of an Illusion with a heavy focus on libidinal economy. 

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## A Psychoanalysis of Ed Gein & Alfred Hitchcock

This analysis explores the psychological intersection between Ed Gein, the 1950s Wisconsin serial killer, and Alfred Hitchcock's masterwork "Psycho," examining how real-world psychopathology became cinematic horror through psychoanalytic frameworks.

### Ed Gein: The Psychological Profile

Ed Gein was a 50-year-old bachelor living in isolated conditions on a decaying Plainfield, Wisconsin farmhouse when authorities discovered his crimes in 1957. His psychological breakdown reveals how isolation exacerbates mental instability—after losing his domineering mother, Gein's reclusive nature led to bizarre obsessions including necrophilia, grave robbing, and creating objects from human remains. The community's denial played a significant role, as residents dismissed him as a harmless eccentric rather than confronting the reality of his violent pathology. This collective denial allowed his atrocities to unfold unchecked, demonstrating how communities can ignore troubling signs by convincing themselves that such horrors are impossible in their midst.

### The Hitchcock Connection

Robert Bloch's novel "Psycho" drew loose inspiration from Gein's case, creating the character Norman Bates—a mother-dominated killer. However, Hitchcock's relationship to the Gein material was more distant than popular culture suggests. The director left most story structure to screenwriter Joseph Stefano, who focused on Hitchcockian suspense techniques rather than deep Gein research. Netflix's recent "Monster: The Ed Gein Story" depicts Hitchcock reconstructing Gein's house and showing it to Anthony Perkins, but historians confirm no such event occurred—this represents dramatic license, not documented history.

### Psychoanalytic Themes

The film explores profound psychological fragmentation through the Norman-Marion parallel. Both characters exhibit split personalities: Marion distances herself from her conscience after stealing money, while Norman embodies literal dissociative identity disorder. Hitchcock employs mirrors systematically to represent this doubling—Norman's reflection in windows shows his "second self," with one side bearing an awkward smile while the reflected side appears grim and tight-lipped. The use of inner monologue links Marion's neurosis to Norman's psychosis, demonstrating how the film foregrounds similarities between them, starting with their names.

The viewer's gaze becomes complicit through Hitchcock's technique—when Norman watches Marion's car sink in the swamp and it stops momentarily, the anxiety arising in viewers reveals their desire is identical to Norman's, forcing them to confront that their impartiality was always false. This de-idealization of the gaze exposes the pathological desire maintaining it.

### Cultural Impact

The films of Alfred Hitchcock typically present mental disorders and psychoanalysis as main themes, though not created with academic goals, naturally containing some distortions. "Psycho" situates itself within postwar contexts of madness and became paradigmatic for representing psychopathology in cinema. Gein's case revealed how evil can masquerade as normalcy—seemingly ordinary individuals harboring deep underlying darkness that communities willfully ignore 

This psychoanalytic examination reveals how isolation, maternal domination, split identity, and viewer complicity intersect to create one of cinema's most enduring psychological horror narratives, rooted in the disturbing reality of American serial violence

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