Learn the core mindsets of systems thinking to tackle complex problems. Our beginner's guide helps you zoom in and out, shift perspectives, and reframe challenges for lasting solutions.

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Unlock the Power of Systems Thinking: Deirdre Cerminaro

Amit Paul har en spännande bakgrund som internationell popstjärna, VD, managementkonsult och entreprenör. Idag driver han bla Innrwrks och podden World of Wisdom. Elsa Ardfors pratar med Amit om vad transformation betyder för honom och hur han använder systemtänkande i sina olika verksamheter. Det blir ett spännande samtal och en bra fördjupning i ämnet transformation.

#124 – Amit Paul: En fördjupning om transformation och systemtänkande

On Episode 538 of Impact Boom, Pierre Berastaín of the Centre for Public Impact discusses adopting the systems thinking approach to initiate widespread impact, and where opportunities exist for organisations to support the initiatives and enterprises generating sustainable, community centred impact.

If you are a changemaker wanting to learn actionable steps to grow your organisations or level up your impact, don't miss out on this episode!

If you enjoyed this episode, then check out Episode 384 with Dr. David Ireland on systems innovation, sustainability and desirable leadership qualities -> https://bit.ly/3CyiW5b

The team who made this episode happen were:
Host: Indio Myles
Guest(s): Pierre Berastaín
Producer: Indio Myles

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Episode 538 (2025) Pierre Berastaín On Implementing Adaptive Solutions To Catalyse Systems Change

In this episode of Discerning Leadership, Dr. Greg Magnan and Dr. Erin Vernon explore the relationship between leadership and systems thinking, emphasizing the importance of feedback loops, respect in education, and the challenges of navigating polarizing topics. They speak on how leaders can effectively engage with complex systems and foster respectful conversations, ultimately shaping the dynamics and outcomes of their environments. 

Moving Through Systems: Feedback and Respectful Learning

Renowned author and complexity thinker Jennifer Garvey Berger, co-founder of Cultivating Leadership, joins us in this episode to explore how organisations can evolve by unlocking the mental traps that limit adaptive capacity.
She helps us reframe leadership as a practice that fosters engagement and thriving amid uncertainty, and guides us through why individual development is essential to creating truly functional and effective collectives.
She highlights gaps in organisations that often overlook the importance of actively attending to a team’s health, which harms the relationships and connections that hold systems together.
She shares a future-focused insight, stating that “organisations are not merely serving markets, but constantly co-creating them,” redefining the deep implications for how organisations define their purpose, value, and long-term responsibility.
This episode offers a powerful and timely reflection that embraces a more ecological and co-creative approach to organizing. Tune in.

Jennifer, widely known for her books “Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps” and “Changing on the Job”, has guided organisations worldwide in revisiting their mindtraps and reshaping traditional leadership.
In this episode, she continues to challenge conventional views of customer-centricity and urges organisations to recognise their role in shaping society and ecosystems, advocating for a purpose that is deeply embedded rather than merely performative.
On a timely note, she reflects on generational shifts in how people relate to work and meaning, alongside the rise of values-led business models that call for designing with longer horizons in mind.
She helps us stay present, emphasising it as essential for preparing for the future, and guides us in visualising and designing what it means to be a complexity-informed leader.

Key Highlights
👉 Value in complex systems is co-created and fluid - organisations must shift from simply "serving customer needs" to becoming conscious shapers of society.
👉 Younger generations are increasingly unwilling to invest their life force into organisations that prioritise profit over planetary purpose and human well-being.
👉 Leadership requires working with, not eliminating, conflict.
👉 Escaping cognitive mindtraps (like certainty, control, or simple stories) is essential for leaders navigating complexity and change.
👉 In complexity, defining and enacting value is a collective, recursive process - it’s shaped by individuals, teams, and ecosystems in continuous dialogue.
👉 Purpose in complexity-friendly organisations must be lived and systemic, not just performative; it's about genuine social contracts and ecosystem stewardship.
👉 True systemic change begins with slowing down, listening differently, and allowing space for emergence.

Topics /chapters
(00:00) 00:00 Leadership in Complexity: Purpose, Failure & Conflict - intro
(01:55) Introducing Jennifer Garvey Berger
(03:45) The Polarities in Leadership
(06:48) A new mindset at the Leadership Level
(08:54) Personal Pattern and Complex Ecosystems
(13:03) Operationalising individual and collective patterns
(16:49) The boundaries of leadership in an organization
(19:05) The “How” and the “What” to Addressing Complexity
(25:21) Organizational Readiness for Handling Complexity
(28:08) Are Purpose-Driven Markets the Future?
(42:37) Breadcrumbs and Suggestions

Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://www.boundaryless.io/podcast/garvey-jennifer 

Episode recorded on Jun 03, 2025

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#123 - Leadership in Complexity: Purpose, Failure & Conflict with Jennifer Garvey Berger

On Episode 578 of Impact Boom, Dr. Tim Tompson and Leanne Sobel of Snowmelt discuss how design and systems thinking can be leveraged to create more participatory and equitable strategies across complex social challenges, enabling collaborative leadership, and embedding human-centred approaches within organisational change.

If you are a changemaker wanting to learn actionable steps to grow your organisations or level up your impact, don't miss out on this episode!

If you enjoyed this episode, then check out Episode 577 with Hanna Ebeling on backing the boldest impact ventures and building regional resilience -> https://bit.ly/448b1VU

The team who made this episode happen were:
Host: Tom Allen
Guest(s): Dr. Tim Tompson and Leanne Sobel
Producer: Indio Myles

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Episode 578 (2025) Dr. Tim Tompson and Leanne Sobel On Designing Systems For Social Impact

Sangeet Paul Choudary, globally recognised Platform Strategist and author, joins back on the Boundaryless Conversations Podcast for the 4th time. In this episode, the closing one for Season 6, we unpack how AI radically transforms the system of work.
Together, we explore how organisations can stay relevant as value is being redefined (intrinsic, economic, contextual), and how systemic design choices shape who benefits in a rapidly fragmenting economy. 
Drawing a powerful parallel to the shipping container revolution, Sangeet shows how AI’s impact operates at multiple levels, from simple task automation up to systemic change, urging us to think bigger than just isolated productivity gains.
He challenges the Techno-Optimist and Luddite narratives for assuming that competition rules and value distribution remain static in an AI world. Instead, Sangeet urges us to think about how the “pie” gets sliced.

Sangeet is a globally renowned author and has an upcoming book, “Reshuffle”. He is known for his deep systems thinking and sharp analysis of digital ecosystems.
In this episode, he explored how organisations must fundamentally rethink value (and their role) in an AI-transformed world and unpacks the often-overlooked link between constraints and value. 
He helps us distinguish local and systemic effects, urging leaders to stop optimising for short-term efficiencies, and challenges the outdated assumption that markets are uniform and competition is static.
If you’re curious to learn how your perception of innovation needs to shift, tune in.


Key Highlights
👉 In an AI-driven economy, organisations must redefine value in context, not just by markets, but by their unique purpose, position, and impact.
👉 Both techno-optimists and Luddites fall into the same trap: they assume the rules of competition stay the same. But as AI reshapes how the “pie” is sliced
👉 Traditional frameworks fall short - leaders must now navigate systems thinking, modularity, and multi-dimensional trade-offs.
👉 Strategic advantage lies in judgment, where decision-makers are directly impacted by their choices.
👉 Organisations must shift from task-level automation to system-level redesign.
👉 The future of leadership demands a long-term appetite for long-term planning - helping us thrive through uncertainty and systemic adaptation.
 
Topics /chapters
(00:00) How AI Restacks the System of Work - Intro 
(01:38) Introducing Sangeet Paul Choudary
(03:34) New Framing for assessing the impact of AI
(11:03) Deeper Impacts of AI on the System
(16:52) AI affecting Value Economics
(22:16) How is Value Impacted in the System of Work
(31:08) Shift of Role Requirements in Organiations
(35:13) Individual responsibility in defining value
(50:09) Pace of Technology
(56:49) Breadcrumbs and Suggestions
(01:01:05) Closing of Season 6

Remember that you can always find transcripts and key highlights of the episode on our website: https://www.boundaryless.io/podcast/sangeet-choudary-4/

Episode recorded on May 15, 2025

To pre-order Sangeet's Book: "Reshuffle: Who wins when AI restacks the knowledge economy" check out this link https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DTKW6NQV?ref_=pe_93986420_775043100

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#124 – How AI Restacks the System of Work with Sangeet Paul Choudary | Closing of Season 6

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Welcome to the Never Stop Getting Better Podcast, where we dive deep into personal and professional growth strategies to help you reach your fullest potential. In each episode, host John Perry explores topics ranging from leadership and productivity to mindset and self-improvement, featuring insightful interviews with experts and thought leaders.

If you have any suggestions, questions, or feedback, don't hesitate to email John Perry at johnperry@neverstopgettingbetter.net. You can also go to the website neverstopgettingbetter.net

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Tom joined JMARK in 1997 upon completion of enlistment to the Navy, where he was awarded two Navy Achievement medals. One of which was a result of his passion for technology when he upgraded his first computer and designed a financial reporting database. As a level one engineer at JMARK, he worked his way up the ranks before purchasing the company in 2001. Tom had to make some hard decisions and downsize the company to only six people. Now, with over 110 employees, JMARK is a leader in its space.

Tom has built a people-first business that attracts and empowers some of the top people in the world. Under his leadership, JMARK has consistently grown at best-in-class rates with best-in-class net promoter scores while winning an award for Best Places to Work™. The Missouri-based company has been recognized on Inc. Magazine’s list of the top 5,000 Fastest Growing Private Companies in America for nine consecutive times.

As JMARK’s CEO, Tom is a trusted technology adviser to a global list of clients. He has been named to the annual MSP Mentor 250 leadership list five times. Nationally, he is an in-demand speaker on leadership and technology, including culture and people puzzles, operational efficiencies, executive strategies, entrepreneur tactics, technology trends, IT maturity methodologies, and cybersecurity. Tom has also been involved in acquisitions and startups in the technology space.

Tom’s latest passion is to share the lessons learned from building a great business which celebrates the culture and people who make it successful. In his book Adapt or Die™ and the online courses, Tom shares the Algorithm of Success™ formula required to help small and medium businesses thrive in an ever-changing world.

Episode 223: Leading Through Change: Systems, People, and Purpose With JMark's CEO Tom Douglas

This framework provides a way of looking at multi-stakeholder collaboration processes that can help us when designing and navigating in these complex processes. Even if models are always a simplified picture of reality, this model can be very useful to talk about in a collaboration group.

We talk about:
- The ”father” of this model: Arne Eriksson, a Swedish pioneer when it comes to theories and methods for multi-stakeholder collaboration, coming from local and regional development and innovation leadership
- The ladder is actually a staircase with five steps: 1. Meeting place (forum, network, conference, getting in contact) 2. Conversation (going deeper into exploration of different perspectives and potential when going in a common direction) 3. Consensus (deciding on a common direction), 4. Collaboration (doing things in new ways together, coordinating processes) 5. Collective action (established collaboration that is integrated in daily routines in the different stakeholders’ organization)
- How the ladder can be a practical tool for sensemaking and in typical situations that occur when meeting between organizations
- How to use the ladder as a method to clarify the level of ambition in a multi-stakeholder collaboration and to spark interesting and important conversations
- The popularity of this model among participants in our trainings


5. The collaboration ladder

Radical Reformers is back! Listen in to Andrew Laird’s insightful conversation with relational working legend Gary Wallace, a public health specialist from Plymouth City Council.

In this episode, Gary comprehensively debunks New Public Management, highlighting its weaknesses and championing relational working. He shares his expertise on systems thinking, human learning systems, and the importance of creating a healthy system where all the bits of the system work together to support people.

Gary's approach to relational working is a masterclass in itself, offering valuable insights for public-facing practitioners, commissioners, and leaders.

Gary talks about making impactful change and continuous learning throughout this episode. Trying to make big changes can be daunting and seemingly impossible - so we thought it was really powerful when Gary said “Even if you can't change the way your service works, you can change the way you work as an individual.” And that’s where all great change starts really, isn’t it?


Relational Working Masterclass with Gary Wallace

Art of Collaborating is a podcast produced by Länka Consulting. Länka was established in 2015 by Anna Zingmark and Karoline Bottheim with the mission to explore and develop the tricky "art" of multi-stakeholder-collaboration. When we meet between organizations, sectors and knowledge areas in order to find solutions for handling complex societal challenges, we need support from practical methods and ways of understanding how to collaborate more efficiently. After years of discussing this topic with experts, researchers and practitioners all over the world, we are quite sure that multi-stakeholder collaboration can be called an advanced "art", a specific way of working, it may even be seen as a specific "community of practice". With our podcast, we want to make this - really necessary - specific way of working accessible to more people who find themselves in complex processes with many stakeholders involved.

IDEO’s Creative Confidence Podcast shares candid conversations with creative leaders, changemakers, and innovators navigating today’s most pressing challenges. Through real-world stories and insights, we explore how to lead with creativity, build resilient teams, and drive innovation. Grounded in IDEO’s 40 years of expertise in design thinking and innovation, each episode offers inspiration and practical tools for audacious leaders at every stage of their careers. Hosted by Mina Seetharaman, Head of New Ventures at IDEO, the podcast brings a human-centered lens to the complexities of making more courageous futures.

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Impact Boom searches the globe to find the people, stories & inspiration to help you create maximum positive impact.

We interview world-leading social innovators, entrepreneurs, changemakers, designers, educators, thinkers and doers who share Insights, ideas & inspiration. As long as these leaders are focussing their efforts on creating positive social and environmental change, we'll make sure you hear about it.

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We do it by creating openly accessible frameworks and by supporting a community of organizations, institutions, and individuals through workshops, training, and consulting services. 

In this space we host all our audio recordings, including the Boundaryless Conversations podcast, a show focused on exploring the future of large scale organising by leveraging on technology, network effects and shaping narratives. We explore how platforms can help us play with a world in turmoil, change, and transformation: a world that is at the same time more interconnected and interdependent than ever but also more conflictual and rivalrous. 

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