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Episode 9: Philosopher of education and futurist Zak Stein. This episode was recorded on March 12, 2024. 

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00:00:00 Foreword
00:02:18 AI and metacrisis.
00:05:13 Technology and humanity.
00:09:04 Both centralized and decentralized solutions.
00:15:42 What is education?
00:18:43 The uniqueness of human learning.
00:23:24 The dialectic between learning and education.
00:27:27 Reading is not seeing is not hearing.
00:32:48 A catastrophe that will be hard to recognize until it's too late.
00:36:32 Intrinsic values.
00:39:37 Love – the last value standing?
00:48:29 The Eye of Value and vulnerable forms of life.
00:51:37 The infinite value of a tree.
00:54:59 Desires. 
00:59:53 Truth without experts. 
01:05:17 Postmodernism and values.
01:08:26 Beyond postmodernism. 
01:17:29 Planetary culture superstructure.
01:22:44 Social media and the pressure to have a public opinion.
01:26:33 The proper value of education, learning and technology.
01:28:13 Afterword

Zak's web page https://www.zakstein.org/
The Consilience Project https://consilienceproject.org
Zak's book Education in a Time Between Worlds https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/44125536-education-in-a-time-between-worlds
Zak in Emerge podcast (episode AI Tutor Acocalypse) https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/zak-stein-ai-tutor-apocalypse/id1057220344?i=1000610403148
Scott Alexander's article Love and Liberty https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/love-and-liberty
Zak's essay on the Eye of Value: https://www.zakstein.org/uploads/1/4/2/4/142408092/opening_the_eye_of_value_stein_2024.pdf
David Chapman's Meaningness https://meaningness.com

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#9 Zak Stein: Avoid AI dystopia, solve the metacrisis. Education beyond schooling. The Eye of Value.

Dit is de audio versie van de blog post 'Waarom de klimaatcrisis niet ons grootste probleem is, en waarom technologie ons niet zal redden'. Je kan deze blog post lezen op de website van A Biosphere Project: 
https://www.abiosphereproject.org/post/waarom-de-klimaatcrisis-niet-ons-grootste-ecologische-probleem-is-en-waarom-technologie-ons-niet-za

Audio versie 'Waarom de klimaatcrisis niet ons grootste probleem is, en waarom technologie ons niet zal redden'

An audio version of this blog post: https://jacklowe.com/2025/07/15/have-you-clocked-the-white-hot-silvery-sunshine/

Have You Clocked The White Hot Silvery Sunshine?

Alexander Beiner is a writer and podcaster. He’s one of the executive directors of Breaking Convention, and the author of the book The Bigger Picture: How Psychedelics can help us make sense of the world. 

In 2018, he co-founded Rebel Wisdom, an alternative media and events platform that grew to a quarter of a million subscribers, and became an influential node in the systems change, personal growth and sense-making communities. His work explores how psychedelics can be used to elicit sustainable cultural change, the complexities of psychedelic capitalism and mainstreaming, and how differing beliefs and value systems affect psychedelic culture.

Ali Beiner discusses his book "The Bigger Picture," which explores the intersection of psychedelics and systems change. He emphasizes the transformative power of psychedelics, noting their role in enhancing complexity tolerance and fostering a deeper connection to the world. Beiner highlights the importance of an "ecology of practices," including meditation, therapy, and psychedelics, to address the meta crisis. He also discusses the need for collective integration of psychedelic insights into governance, economics, and education. Beiner advocates for a psychedelic way of thinking to drive systemic change, encouraging curiosity and experimentation.

https://www.alexanderbeiner.com
https://beiner.substack.com
https://beiner.substack.com/p/leviathan-full-documentary

Here are the key references mentioned during the conversation:
Authors/Thinkers:

Timothy Morton (concept of meta crisis)
Ken Wilber (integral studies)
John Vervaeke (cognitive science)
Terence McKenna (psychedelic philosopher)
Timothy Leary (psychedelic researcher)
Ram Dass (spiritual teacher)
Daniel Schwackenburger
Bruce Dahmer (scientist who had an Ayahuasca insight)

Books/Concepts:
"The Bigger Picture" (the speaker's book)
4E Cognitive Science
Exaptation (evolutionary concept)
WEIRD model (Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, Democratic)

Specific Research/Studies:
Johns Hopkins psychedelic studies
Rick Strassman's DMT study
NASA's origins of life research

Psychedelic Communities/Conferences:
Breaking Convention conference
Minds (non-profit focused on psychedelic innovation)


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