Sue Grand joins us for a conversation about hatred and totalitarianism. A psychoanalyst who has spent decades studying trauma and the ways evil reproduces across history, Grand is interested in how introspection might protect us and others from our own perpetrator fragments. She challenges the assumption that traumatized people victimize others—most do not. The regeneration of harm, she argues, arises from a complex interplay between psychological defenses and social structures such as gender binaries and racialization. But how do everyday people get caught up in the fevered swell of fascist times? Can psychotherapy be antifascist? Grand examines the erotic lure of fascism, while John and Mason explore Deleuze and Guattari’s provocative claim that, on some level, we all desire it.


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Episode 58: This Machine Kills Fascism

In this episode, Angelo talks with Dr. Nancy McWilliams about her new book "Psychoanalytic Supervision" (2022). Drawing from over 40 years of leading supervision groups, Dr. McWilliams shares her revolutionary approach to tracking therapeutic progress through ten "psychological vital signs"—a hopeful reframe that asks not just "Are they less depressed?" but "Are they more alive? More capable of love, work, and play?" Their rich conversation explores what makes group supervision uniquely powerful, how parallel process operates across multiple therapeutic relationships, and the art of creating safety where supervisees can present their most challenging cases. They also discuss the development of an "internal supervisor" and what it means to shift from symptom-focused thinking to tracking deeper capacities for human flourishing. Finally, Dr. McWilliams reflects on nearly five decades practicing psychotherapy and shares what gives her the most hope about the future of therapeutic work.

Links:
"Psychoanalytic Supervision" (2022) https://tinyurl.com/43tnbf9b

29. Nancy McWilliams

This week Cooper and Taylor discuss a short piece from Sigmund Freud: On the Universal Tendency to Debasement in the Sphere of Love. We focus on the implications on libidinal economy. We tie the piece to Deleuze & Guattari, Lyotard, Lacan, and Rene Girard. 

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Sigmund Freud - Debasement in the Sphere of Love

Lara Sheehi was doing her job as a professor of clinical psychology when her criticism of Israel catapulted her into uninvited infamy. Bad faith accusations of antisemitism, reliant on obfuscating political dissent with bigotry led to her investigation while reports from news outlets led to her being disinvited from speaking engagements, stalked, and protested. Despite a letter of support from Jewish colleagues that included giants in the field of psychoanalysis, the controversy split the field in two- those who knew her compassionate work on behalf of the oppressed and those who scapegoated her as a danger to psychoanalytic innocence. It is this myth of purity that shapes Lara’s theory and resistance to the veil of mutuality and dialogue, which she contends too often obstructs the very nature of our unequal material realities. Sheehi challenges us to be vigilant towards misrecognition, the not-so-unconscious ways in which we commit to logics of oppression, especially those of us who identify as healers. 

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Episode 59: Bad Faith Alone

Jacques Lacan Mix: Vérité - Tolga Theo Yalur

Sigmund Freud Mix: The Unconscious - Tolga Theo Yalur

Dreams of Others  - Tolga Theo Yalur

Love at Sight  - Tolga Theo Yalur

Entre - Tolga Theo Yalur

Dear Listeners,
In this episode your hosts discuss the question of shame.

[0:24] Intro
[3:28] Different kind of shame
[05:47] Guilt and shame
[06:34] Shame by interpretation
[13:19] Did patients change?
[14:33] Shame and defense
[22:08] Perversions
[31:18] The analyst's shame
[44:27] Shame and castration
[46:38] Shame and anger directed at the Institute
[48:05] Shame and hiding
[50:11] More intense for analysts?
[54:38] Shame between students
[57:59] Peer group to counter shame
[01:01:33] Ending


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#57 On Shame

Psychotherapists John Totten and Mason Neely bring you this psychotherapy podcast that explores what is happening between therapists and patients, from both sides of the relationship.

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