On this week's episode of the Bag Drop: Untold Stories in golf, we ask the hard questions, like, is time real? What is the cultural impact of films like Top Gun: Maverick? Who is Mort Sherman? Matt and the Professor welcome renowned storyteller and lesser-known golfer Darren Schwartz to the show. Among many topics, the trio highlights the importance of mentorship in golf, business, and in life before shifting to the dynamics of winning, where players balance supporting their opponents while striving for victory, and the temptations of psychological warfare on the course. Darren shares some excerpts from his memoir, examining personal growth and experiences with ayahuasca. They discuss public speaking, caddies' roles, and share anecdotes relating to mental health and the performance of each. The dialogue is infused with humor and relatable to both golf enthusiasts and those seeking personal development. Matt and Darren wrap up by reflecting on memorable golf moments, including a heartfelt letter to Bill Murray, the significance of Jim Nantz's sultry voice in April, and non-essential golf gear that's just fun to have in the bag. The conversation concludes by reflecting on how golf mirrors life's challenges and joys, emphasizing its psychological examinations as one of the game's unique and great strengths. 

NewClub > https://www.newclub.golf

Titleist > https://www.titleist.com

What Happens Next With Larry Bernstein > https://www.whathappensnextin6minutes.com/

Winning at Golf by Darren Schwartz > https://www.blog.newclub.golf/post/7wd7vuwc8l631un8d4x4mou6akicxn
 
Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Golf World and Academic Life
02:57 Exciting Developments in Golf Architecture
06:03 The Anticipation of a Special Guest
09:09 The Professor's Fact of the Week: Time and Perception
12:01 Diving into Movie Critique and Cultural Commentary
18:10 Exploring the Art of Storytelling in Golf
20:54 Psychological Warfare on the Golf Course
24:50 Psychological Warfare in Golf
27:31 The Competitive Spirit of Golf
30:19 Exploring Ayahuasca: A Journey Within
34:37 The Risks and Revelations of Ayahuasca
38:59 Public Speaking and Personal Struggles
41:39 Golfing Legends and Personal Connections
48:33 Caddying: The Unsung Hero of Golf
54:05 Memorable Golf Moments
57:40 A Letter to Bill Murray
01:00:47 The Masters Connection
01:04:07 Golf Gear and Personal Preferences
01:09:53 Golf as a Reflection of Life

Psychedelics, Mind Games, and Letters to Bill Murray with Darren Schwartz

In this episode, Matt Considine and The Professor welcome PGA Professional, Brad Davis, to the show to discuss the importance of creativity in the sport and the role club professionals can play in unlocking more creative outlets to enhance the customer experience. The conversation highlights the personal experiences of both Brad and our Hosts as they explore the intersection of creativity and golf.

NewClub > [https://www.newclub.golf](https://www.newclub.golf/)

Titleist > [https://www.titleist.com](https://www.titleist.com/)

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Concert Season
03:02 Golf as a Character Builder
05:40 Strength Training and Aging
08:43 Palmer Award Winners and Community in Golf
11:17 Creativity in Golf and Personal Journey
16:48 Guest Introduction: Brad Davis
19:35 The Intersection of Art and Golf
29:15 Introduction to the Creative Mindset in Golf
30:58 Embracing Creativity in Golf Pro Shops
35:50 The Importance of Design in Golf Merchandise
40:30 The Evolution of Golf Course Photography
46:02 The Role of Trees in Golf Course Aesthetics
51:01 Swing Mechanics and the Power of Tempo

Golf as a Creative Canvas

The Open Championship! Most golf nuts' favorite golf-on-tv week of the year (Sincerest apologies to the third week in April). Matt and the Professor welcome a special guest, Ru MacDonald of Cruden Bay fame, to explore his insights on the cultural aspects of golf in Scotland, the impact of technology, and the importance of accessibility and sustainability in the sport. The discussion also highlights lesser-known golf courses (do we dare say hidden gems?), the influence of Americanism on Scottish golf, and the community aspect of the game that is still thriving in an era not so open. Plus some picks for the Champion Golfer of the Year. The episode concludes with reflections on balancing passion and profession in one’s chosen career.



NewClub > [https://www.newclub.golf](https://www.newclub.golf/)

Titleist > [https://www.titleist.com](https://www.titleist.com/)

Connect with Ru and Linksland > https://www.linksland.golf/



Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Reflections on Golf Engagement
02:41 Matt's Return to Competitive Golf
05:22 Independence Day and Anticipation for the Open Championship
08:15 Insights from Titleist Fitting Experience
11:01 Interview with Ru McDonald: Golf in Scotland
13:57 Bob McIntyre's Impact on Scottish Golf
16:33 The Art of Ball Flight Manipulation
19:21 Port Rush Preparations for the Open Championship
22:08 The Unique Experience of Attending The Open
25:18 Cultural Aspects of Golf in Scotland vs. America
29:56 The Accessibility of Golf in Scotland
31:26 American Influence on Scottish Golf
32:17 Balancing Tradition and Modernization
37:40 The Future of Golf in Scotland
40:21 The Passion for Golf Course Architecture
42:57 Hidden Gems in Scottish Golf
48:13 The 12-Hole Golf Movement
52:37 The Secret Sauce of DP World Tour Videos
57:21 Navigating a Career in Golf

Open & Closed: Exploring Golf's Accessibility with Ru MacDonald

Fellow NewClub members join Matt and The Professor to unpack NewClub’s 2025 International to Southeast England; why unforgettable English links, accessible and stunning architecture along with vibrant club culture makes this English itinerary a strong contender for any dreamer’s bucket list. The lively discussion continues on why golf culture in England creates experiences unmatched in the US highlighting the welcoming nature of English clubs, the importance of public access, and the joy of playing in a community-focused environment. The conversation also touches on the future of NewClub Fixtures, and future International golf trips. Thanks to Peter Korbakes of Far and Sure Golf Tours for assisting with all arrangements and members Lee Lewis, Tim Swindle, and Morgan Campbell (Captain - Atlanta Chapter) for joining us on the show.



NewClub > [https://www.newclub.golf](https://www.newclub.golf/)

Titleist > [https://www.titleist.com](https://www.titleist.com/)

Far & Sure > https://www.farandsuregolftours.com/


Chapters

00:00 The Excitement of Sports Seasons
11:59 Reunion and Anticipation for the England Trip
14:26 Pitching England as a Golf Destination
18:32 Exploring Club Culture in England
24:48 The Proper Golf Experience in England
27:45 Guest Culture in Golf Clubs
29:20 Contrasting Golf Cultures: US vs UK
31:30 Infrastructure and Facilities in Golf Clubs
34:29 Choosing Your Home Course
38:18 The Spirit of Golf: Community and Competition
40:53 The Experience of Playing at Deal
46:05 Bringing UK Golf Culture to America
50:14 Future of International Golf Fixtures

Is England home to the best golf trip in the world?

In this episode of The NewClub Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, hosts Matt Considine and The Professor (Dr. Kevin Moore)delve into the profound impact of golf on mental health and personal development. Joined by Robert Jones Black, founder of the Generation Next Project, they explore how the game of golf serves as a powerful tool for teaching resilience, introspection, and emotional control. Discover how golf's unique challenges mirror life's obstacles and learn about the innovative "Change Your Course" program, which utilizes golf to address youth mental health. Tune in for an inspiring conversation that highlights the transformative power of golf for kids, adults, and communities. 

Connect with Robert, Carla and The Generation Next Project > https://www.generationnextproject.org/

Learn more about NewClub > [https://www.newclub.golf](https://www.newclub.golf/)

Thanks to our Partners at Titleist > [https://www.titleist.com](https://www.titleist.com/)

The 5½ Inches That Matter Most: Golf, Mental Health, and Legacy with Robert Jones Black

In this episode of the Bag Drop Podcast, our hosts Matt Considine and The Professor are joined by special guest and longtime friend Jamie Grigas to explore the world of competitive golf. Jamie and Matt go way back to childhood where they developed a bond over their shared competitive drive. When they were 10 years old, Jamie told Matt he would caddy for him when he got to the PGA tour. That never happened, but 30 years later Matt decided to return to competitive golf after a 5-year hiatus, and Jamie was there to carry his bag (along with offering needed psychological support). They relive the 2025 Ohio Open, discussing the pressures and joys of tournament golf while drawing parallels with Jamie's swimming and CrossFit backgrounds. The conversation highlights the importance of individual moments, the role of a caddy, true friendship, and the mental challenges faced by golfers at every level. Through personal anecdotes and insights, the episode delves into the transformative power of golf and the significance of embracing the journey rather than focusing solely on the score.

Learn More about NewClub > [https://www.newclub.golf](https://www.newclub.golf/)

The all new T-series irons from Titleist > [https://www.titleist.com](https://www.titleist.com/)

What Competitive Golf Teaches You at 40 That It Couldn’t at 20

In this episode, Matt Considine and The Professor delve into the concept of duty within the context of golf clubs and country clubs. They explore how duty, or the responsibility of members, influences the culture of each club, and the differences between ownership and rental mindsets in club membership. The conversation also touches on the evolution of golf clubs and their courses, the impact of elite clubs like Augusta National, and the importance of creating an inclusive environment for all golfers. Ultimately, they emphasize the need for clubs to focus on their duty to promote the game of golf and foster community among members and within the broader community.

NewClub > [https://www.newclub.golf](https://www.newclub.golf/)

Titleist > [https://www.titleist.com](https://www.titleist.com/)


Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the New Club and Hosting Dynamics
03:54 Exploring Duty in Golf and Club Membership
12:25 The Role of Duty in Golf Culture
20:10 Service Above Self: The True Meaning of Duty
26:32 The Evolution of Golf in America
28:13 Understanding Club Membership Dynamics
32:57 The Concept of Club Citizenship
36:33 The Role of Duty in Club Membership
40:15 Financial Sustainability in Golf Clubs
45:53 The Future of Golf Clubs and Inclusivity
53:17 The Duty of Exclusive Golf Clubs
55:07 Conflicted Individuals and the Role of Augusta National
57:29 Tradition vs. Change in Golf Clubs
01:01:19 The Importance of Club Duty
01:04:08 Creating a New Golf Society
01:11:52 The Broader Impact of Golf Duty

We are the Club: Duty, Culture, and the Future of Golf Membership

In this episode, Matt and The Professor engage in a focused discussion about professional golf playoffs and tournament formats. They explore the challenges of current playoff systems and suggest innovative alternatives that could improve viewer engagement. The conversation covers group play dynamics, semi-finals structures, and final formats that balance equity with entertainment. They specifically address the TV challenges of match play formats and consider creative scoring systems to keep tournaments exciting. Drawing inspiration from other sports, they propose ideas that blend tradition with innovation, emphasizing formats that create compelling stories while satisfying both players and fans. Throughout, they emphasize the importance of designing championship structures that showcase the best talent and deliver dramatic endings that captivate audiences while not taking any one proposal or potential fix too seriously. 

NewClub > https://www.newclub.golf
Titleist > https://www.titleist.com

Golf Playoffs: A Tinkering Tradition (Solutions May Vary)

In this episode, Matt and The Professor explore how certain golf clubs are building upon tradition and revolutionizing the membership model for today's most committed and golf-minded members. By offering flexible options, accessibility with welcoming atmospheres, and a strong community focus that emphasizes the golf experience above all else, these clubs are becoming places where many want to be both members and guests.

NewClub > https://www.newclub.golf

Titleist > https://www.titleist.com

Chapters
Introduction to Unique Membership Models (0:00 - 2:30) 
Hosts Matt Considine and The Professor introduce the topic of innovative golf club memberships.
Taking a Break from Golf (2:31 - 5:00) 
Discussion on strategies for overcoming a slump in your golf game.
The Importance of Club Culture (5:01 - 10:00) 
Exploring how club culture and member responsibilities shape the golfing experience.
Spotlight on Old Barnwell (10:01 - 15:00) 
Highlighting Old Barnwell's mission and unique approach to membership.
Clubs with a Focus on Golf (15:01 - 20:00) 
Discussion on clubs that prioritize the game of golf over exclusivity.
The UK Model in American Golf (20:01 - 25:00) 
Examining how some American clubs are adopting the UK model of accessibility and membership.
Celebrating Club History (25:01 - 30:00) 
The Professor shares insights on clubs that honor their history and traditions.
Shoutouts to Notable Clubs (30:01 - 35:00) 
Recognizing clubs that are making a positive impact in the golf community.
Conclusion and Next Steps (35:01 - End) 
Closing thoughts and a preview of the next episode

Clubs That Put Golf First

In this episode of "The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf," hosts Matt Considine and The Professor explore golf courses that any golfer can get excited about! They dive into the charm and potential of some of their favorite accessible places to play the game. They discuss the unique appeal of lesser-known venues, highlighting the importance of accessibility and community in the golf experience. The conversation examines both the history and future of these courses, focusing on how public-private partnerships can revitalize golf spaces. Tune in for an insightful discussion on golf's evolving landscape and the joy of playing courses rich in history and character.

NewClub > https://www.newclub.golf
Titleist > https://www.titleist.com

Episode Chapters
Introduction and Welcome - Matt and The Professor set the stage for a discussion on public golf courses.
The Allure of Green Valley - Exploring the history and potential of Green Valley.
Canal Shores: A Community Pillar - Highlighting the significance of Canal Shores in Chicago.
Public-Private Partnerships in Golf - Discussing the role of partnerships in revitalizing golf courses.
The Joy of Playing Historic Courses - Reflecting on the nostalgia and charm of public golf.
Conclusion and Call to Action - Encouraging listeners to support and appreciate public golf courses.

Munis Matter

Joel Beall, a senior writer for Golf Digest and author of "Playing Dirty: Rediscovering Golf’s Soul in Scotland in an Age of Sportswashing," offers insights on golf’s civil war, the value of accessibility, and the everyday joys the game brings to individuals and communities alike. This week’s episode was a delightful chat for co-hosts Matt and The Professor. They explore the multifaceted and often hypocritical golf world with Joel, sharing their personal passions, as well as the cultural differences between American and Scottish golf, and, of course, offer some timely insights for the upcoming Ryder Cup. They examine the importance of community in golf, the impact of leadership decisions in the professional game, and the sport's future amid all these changing dynamics.

NewClub > https://www.newclub.golf
Titleist > https://www.titleist.com
Playing Dirty > https://back9press.com/products/beall

00:00 Introduction and Personal Indulgences
02:50 The Transition to Golf and Guest Introduction
05:45 Exploring the Ryder Cup and Keegan's Captaincy
08:27 The Soul of Golf: Scotland vs. America
11:34 The Impact of Golf Culture on Personal Experiences
14:11 The Joy of Golf and Community Connections
16:50 The Future of Golf: Changes and Innovations
19:51 Closing Thoughts and Reflections

Ryder Cup, Scotland & The Game's Enduring Soul with Golf Digest's Joel Beall

Welcome to The NewClub Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf.

Your co-hosts are Matt Considine and Dr. Kevin Moore. 

About NewClub 

Founded in 2017, NewClub Golf Society is a Chicago-based private club without real estate. As one of the first and most comprehensive golf communities of its kind in America, NewClub provides localized golf experiences, immersive competitions, and bucket-list travel opportunities for the golf obsessed. The NewClub ecosystem is revolutionizing the private and public dynamic, pushing traditional U.S. golf structures forward to make the game more sustainable and enjoyable.

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