Nice solution to the problem I had also. I had no idea how to get that effect. Nice.

You've done well to replicate an analogue effect in the digital realm.

Blimey you have excelled yourself there Mr Joyce

Great journey and use of your rainy day poem recording.

More on this 229th weekly Disquiet Junto project (“Fourth Worldizing: Use a favorite trick of legendary sound designer Walter Murch”) at:

http://disquiet.com/0229/

Thanks to Steve Ashby (ashbysounds.com) and Jakob Thiesen (jakobthiesen.flavors.me) for beta testing it.

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Image associated with this project from the film THX-1138.


Disquiet Junto Project 0229: Fourth Worldizing

From the new album Moments of Vertical
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Moments of Vertical

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This turned out a bit more Hallowe'en than I was expecting, but given the date, maybe that's OK 😁💀🎃

an autumn nightfall
the skeleton of a huge fish
drawn back by the sea.

Saitō Sanki (1900 – 1962) was a dentist who discovered his passion for haiku poetry in his mid-thirties, when his colleagues at the hospital in Soto Kanda convinced him to write a haiku for a collection. Later, he became one of the most important exponents of wartime haiku: he was imprisoned in 1940 during the government’s World War II persecution of controversial artists, and was officially forbidden to write until the end of the war.

haiku by Saitō Sanki: https://www.littermagazine.com/2023/07/review-sanki-saito-selected-haiku.html

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Toxic Relationship

There is a very long and convoluted story behind the creation of this track, but it basically involves Stan manipulating some demos for the original version of the track "Volesh Pribe" and sending them back to me. 
Jason - Guitar/bass/drum pads/synth/vocals/etc
Stan - Sound manipulation

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link to the video: https://youtube.com/shorts/s6AfExjX_so?si=0x8FoZ7-uoIbzcW-

jam with looper 05

I used two impulse response reverbs in cascade and I slowed down the impulse response files by 15 times and by 8 times.

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You [disquiet0229]

More on this 229th weekly Disquiet Junto project (“Fourth Worldizing: Use a favorite trick of legendary sound designer Walter Murch”)      release date: 19 May 2016

Large Hadron Collider(Disquiet Junto Project 0229 Fourth Worldizing)

As is often the case, the Junto idea is something to leap off of in the direction of what I would generally do when doing a Junto.  Doing something simple/quick/trashy with something on hand that I don't otherwise use too much.  And then philosophize too much about the whys and wherefores.

I bent or broke the Murch fourthworlding by:

--recording the source sound (the raking of a metal box fan's grill face, open air feedback of recording set up) in pretty much the same room in which it was later rerecorded at 4x speed playback

--never playing the ambient sound in sync with the original recording (obviating the whole approach meant to shift/recreate/4th world the ambient space) 

--never playback any of the sounds (within the final recording) at any speed greater than .4 times original speed.  And generally much slower than that.

I like the Murch approach and admire his craft and resourcefulness.  But I really didn't want to emulate it.  I heard the speed change part, and never meeting a varispeed playback I didn't like, went with that in a very generalized way.  The ambient tracks were recorded of a 4x speed playback of the original sounds just as Murch would've done, but that's it.

Arguably, I otherworlded things.  Nothing came out as it went in, no elements combined in a march step manner to subtly expand a seemingly naturalistic space.  Nope.  

Kept things simple so it could function in a short, roughly one minute duration.  The sounds occur in a loose field that can more or less play out in the time.

Again quick & dirty:  Recorded two mono original tracks on PPC iMac laptop running Audacity.  Played them back at 4x speed running Gleetchlab out the headphone jack into a venerable boombox with line in jacks.  Recorded that in stereo via an Android phone running Titanium Recorder.  Combined tracks in loose non-sync/various slow non-reconstituting speeds via Gleetchlab on same laptop.  Edited the selected take in Audacity.

More on this 229th weekly Disquiet Junto project (“Fourth Worldizing: Use a favorite trick of legendary sound designer Walter Murch”) at:
http://disquiet.com/0229/

Thanks to Steve Ashby (ashbysounds.com) and Jakob Thiesen (jakobthiesen.flavors.me) for beta testing it.

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4th Of Other - Disquiet0229

This week's prompt finds me experimenting with using very different tools that I normally do. It would seem that Mr. Murch had tape recorders with variable speed controls for both record and playback functions. My normal field recorder does not have this functionality (well, at least I couldn't figure it out if it does). I know this sort of manipulation can be done after the fact, but I wanted to experience what it is like using the precise method for creating a reverberant space which he describes in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_py6jVyOqUY 

All sounds in this track are taken from his video and there was no post production other than a slight bit of EQ to keep my ears from totally bleeding. I recorded the playback of the video on my iMac using SmartRecord on my iPhone. This app has the ability to both slow and speed up both recording and playback, but it's max speed is 2X. So After I recorded the initial recording at 2X, I then bounced that over to my iPad recording with the same software also running at 2X. This got me into the realm of the 4x recording he mentions. All of these recordings were done over the air in my studio space which doesn't have much going on in the way of acoustic treatment. After these initial two recordings, I began bouncing faster and faster, and then slower and slower. I was greatly irritated by the exceptionally aliased recordings complete with stair stepping and  piercing artifacts. But, these were being played and recorded, repeatedly, with tinny consumer-level speakers on portable devices not known for their fidelity. I did eight takes on each device for a total of sixteen; half speeding up, and then half slowing down (.5X is the slowest it could go). After that I ended up with the screechy drone that runs in the middle channel of this. I captured it using my MKH20 pointed towards the iPad's speakers. I didn't care for it by itself and decided I'd bring two of the early iterations into play in the left and right channels panned hard each way. I really liked hearing my breath, which was frustrated as I did this, in the recordings. That and my clumsy efforts to press play and record on multiple devices concurrently led to some thumps and bumps that I also like in the final mix. I was surprised to find that once I'd sped things up that many times, and bounced the recordings that many times, there was no rescuing the human vocal data of the original recording. No matter how much I slowed things down on the drone, it droned on.

More on this 229th weekly Disquiet Junto project (“Fourth Worldizing: Use a favorite trick of legendary sound designer Walter Murch”) at:

http://disquiet.com/0229/

Thanks to Steve Ashby (ashbysounds.com) and Jakob Thiesen (jakobthiesen.flavors.me) for beta testing it.

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Church Of Murch [disquiet0229]

track here https://hearthis.at/sevenism/discontorted-space-disquiet0229/

i've been doing alot of distorted ambient this week (https://sevenism.bandcamp.com/album/waves). this stumped me at first, nice to learn something new!

-recorded short piece thru zynfx -> podfarm -> ddly
-change speed 4x in audacity
-re-recorded with cardioid mic quite far from speakers (to capture lots of air!)
-slowed down in audacity

listened with headphones and if anything it's decreased the sense of space.. but i couldn't find anything to record sped up. heyho.

edit: digitally expanded version here: https://sevenism.bandcamp.com/track/dis-con-torted

Oo..oOOo..oOOo..oOOo..oOOo..oOOo..oOOo..oOOo..oOOo..

Disquiet Junto Project 0229: Fourth Worldizing
Use a favorite trick of legendary sound designer Walter Murch.

Background: At 2:14 in the following YouTube clip of an interview about the concept of “worldizing” with sound-design legend Walter Murch he plays a bit of a movie, THX-1138, and then describes the process of recording something to get an exaggerated sense of the space in which it was recorded: “If you are in an ordinary sized room and play the voice at four times speed … and you record it on the other tape recorder, also running at this very fast speed, then when you play the other recorder back at normal speed you get the original sound but you get the space of the room as if it was four times larger than it really is.” (Just to expand the idea a bit, the project’s title, “Fourth Worldizing,” is a nod to musician Jon Hassell.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_py6jVyOqUY

These are the steps for the project:

Step 1: Using the trick Murch has provided, make something of it.

Step 2: Upload your completed track to the Disquiet Junto group on SoundCloud.

Step 3: Annotate your track with a brief explanation of your approach and process.

Step 4: Then listen to and comment on tracks uploaded by your fellow Disquiet Junto participants.

Deadline: This project was posted in shortly after noon, California time, on Thursday, May 19, 2016, with a deadline of 11:59pm wherever you are on Monday, May 23, 2016

Length: The length is up to you, though between one and three minutes feels about right.

Upload: Please when posting your track on SoundCloud, only upload one track for this project, and be sure to include a description of your process in planning, composing, and recording it. This description is an essential element of the communicative process inherent in the Disquiet Junto. Photos, video, and lists of equipment are always appreciated.

Title/Tag: When adding your track to the Disquiet Junto group on Soundcloud.com, please in the title to your track include the term “disquiet0229.” Also use “disquiet0229” as a tag for your track.

Download: It is preferable that your track is set as downloadable, and that it allows for attributed remixing (i.e., a Creative Commons license permitting non-commercial sharing with attribution).

Linking: When posting the track, please be sure to include this information:

More on this 229th weekly Disquiet Junto project (“Fourth Worldizing: Use a favorite trick of legendary sound designer Walter Murch”) at:

http://disquiet.com/0229/

Thanks to Steve Ashby (ashbysounds.com) and Jakob Thiesen (jakobthiesen.flavors.me) for beta testing it.

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waves

dis|con|torted space (disquiet0229)

This week's Disquiet Junto involves using a favorite trick of legendary sound designer Walter Murch to make a reverb sound massive. Sadly I don't posess a recorder that can play back or record at 4 times normal speed, so I have emulated this in software. I used Sony elastique timestretch to speed up the samples 4x and simultaneously pitch them up two octaves, added reverbs, and then used the elastique timestretch to slow the sample down again 4x and reduce the pitch by two octaves. It seems to emulate it fairly well. 

I did this for a few different samples ,trying a few different reverbs to get different effects, and then created a piece of musique concrete from them.  The poem at the beginning is a recording I took of an old friend  reciting a poem by Ernest Hemmingway, back in 2000! Always knew I'd find a use for it sometime. 

Disquiet Junto Project 0229: Fourth Worldizing
Use a favorite trick of legendary sound designer Walter Murch.

Background: At 2:14 in the following YouTube clip of an interview about the concept of “worldizing” with sound-design legend Walter Murch he plays a bit of a movie, THX-1138, and then describes the process of recording something to get an exaggerated sense of the space in which it was recorded: “If you are in an ordinary sized room and play the voice at four times speed … and you record it on the other tape recorder, also running at this very fast speed, then when you play the other recorder back at normal speed you get the original sound but you get the space of the room as if it was four times larger than it really is.” (Just to expand the idea a bit, the project’s title, “Fourth Worldizing,” is a nod to musician Jon Hassell.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_py6jVyOqUY

These are the steps for the project:

Step 1: Using the trick Murch has provided, make something of it.

Step 2: Upload your completed track to the Disquiet Junto group on SoundCloud.

Step 3: Annotate your track with a brief explanation of your approach and process.

Step 4: Then listen to and comment on tracks uploaded by your fellow Disquiet Junto participants.

Deadline: This project was posted in shortly after noon, California time, on Thursday, May 19, 2016, with a deadline of 11:59pm wherever you are on Monday, May 23, 2016

Length: The length is up to you, though between one and three minutes feels about right.

Upload: Please when posting your track on SoundCloud, only upload one track for this project, and be sure to include a description of your process in planning, composing, and recording it. This description is an essential element of the communicative process inherent in the Disquiet Junto. Photos, video, and lists of equipment are always appreciated.

Title/Tag: When adding your track to the Disquiet Junto group on Soundcloud.com, please in the title to your track include the term “disquiet0229.” Also use “disquiet0229” as a tag for your track.

Download: It is preferable that your track is set as downloadable, and that it allows for attributed remixing (i.e., a Creative Commons license permitting non-commercial sharing with attribution).

Linking: When posting the track, please be sure to include this information:

More on this 229th weekly Disquiet Junto project (“Fourth Worldizing: Use a favorite trick of legendary sound designer Walter Murch”) at:

http://disquiet.com/0229/

Thanks to Steve Ashby (ashbysounds.com) and Jakob Thiesen (jakobthiesen.flavors.me) for beta testing it.

More on the Disquiet Junto at:

http://disquiet.com/junto/

Join the Disquiet Junto at:

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Image associated with this project from the film THX-1138.

The Sea Otter (Disquiet0229)

My 33 1/3 series book about the Aphex Twin album <i>Selected Ambient Works Volume II</i> was published in 2014. The book was one of the top 5 bestselling titles for the calendar year, and in 2015 was ranked by Pitchfork as one of the "33 best" of the 100-plus books in the 33 1/3 series. It has subsequently been translated into Japanese (2019) and Spanish (2018)

Since 2012 I have moderated the Disquiet Junto group, which began on SoundCloud. More at disquiet.com/junto. 

I've written for Nature, Pitchfork, The Wire, Down Beat, Boing Boing, NewMusicBox, Red Bull Music Academy, Art Practical, the website of The Atlantic, and many other publications. 

I've exhibited sound art at galleries in Los Angeles (Crewest), Manhattan (apex art), and Dubai (DUTAC), and I had a audio-visual installation at the San Jose Museum of Art as part of its 45th anniversary.

And since 1996 I've run the website Disquiet.com about the intersection of sound, art, and technology.

This will be my place for Naviar Haiku and Disquiet Junto entries.
-Experiments may appear on YouTube from time to time: 
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-Albums will be released on Bandcamp: 
https://ikjoyce.bandcamp.com/

New album "The Endless Solitude Of A Skylark's Song" now available:
https://ikjoyce.bandcamp.com/album/the-endless-solitude-of-a-skylarks-song

Album 'Selene' now available on Cassette / Download from Naviar Records: 
https://naviarrecords.bandcamp.com/album/selene 

**Albums now available on iTunes, Amazon, Deezer, Spotify, and Google Play**  

I make electronic ambient and drone music using modular synthesis to explore themes of nature, space, isolation, man/machine interaction, and the borders of the sleep/wake cycle.

The Sea Otter (Disquiet0229)

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